4 link front w/steering box?

crash2 · Jan 15, 2009

rockmike said:
You say this because of the 4 link?

Or because you feel I wont be happy with the steering power of the assist/box set up?

Mainly due to the 4 link. Sure it can be done--but your going to the effort of a 4 link---you will be MUCH happier going with hydro. Heck you are welciome to come drive my rig and see how you like it...

Bunk1 · Jan 15, 2009

Randy ellis design.

JayH · Jan 15, 2009

rockmike said:
Blunt is good Mike,So what would a good full hydro set up cost a guy?

I came in around $950 for:
cylinder
steering unit
hose
hose ends
column
fluid
and rod ends for the tie rods

Pat · Jan 15, 2009

This reminds me of the Kohler commercial where the lady brings a faucet to an architect and says "design me a house around this."

Don't design your suspension around a steering box. Sell it and put the $ toward full hydro.

CHOP SHOP · Jan 15, 2009

Berne said:
4 link and a steering box is NOT rocket science.....can and has been done.

think push-pull steering. the drag link doesn't have to go side-->side.

:beer:

Seen it on tons of lifted trucks in the midwest. As long as the draglink is as long as the links your all good.:awesomework:

Not Jobless · Jan 15, 2009

Nothing like another turd polishing thread, might as well throw a JK Dana 44 on the front while your at it.

Bunk1 · Jan 16, 2009

It cant be done eh...Whats with the steering shaft angle??? This rig has more harcore miles on it than Brads YJ.

Not Jobless · Jan 16, 2009

Bunk said:
It cant be done eh...Whats with the steering shaft angle??? This rig has more harcore miles on it than Brads YJ.

Hey now...leave my shitbox outa this :fawkdancesmiley:

Cascade_Crawler · Jan 16, 2009

full hydro isnt as expensive as most think, just run a $60 ram from northerntool and a cheap pump, hell, with a couple mods my stock YJ pump works

BiggMayn · Jan 16, 2009

What mods did you do to your stock YJ pump?

boxboy · Jan 16, 2009

Cascade_Crawler said:
full hydro isnt as expensive as most think, just run a $60 ram from northerntool and a cheap pump, hell, with a couple mods my stock YJ pump works

I am using the stock pump with out mods :hi:

Cascade_Crawler · Jan 16, 2009

boxboy said:
I am using the stock pump with out mods :hi:

Mine worked, but its better now.

http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/powersteering.html

rockmike · Jan 16, 2009

Pat said:
This reminds me of the Kohler commercial where the lady brings a faucet to an architect and says "design me a house around this."

Don't design your suspension around a steering box. Sell it and put the $ toward full hydro.

Its either do what youre saying or go with 3 link with panhard for the front link design.

At this point im leaning toward the 3 link set up.I just dont want to soak a grand into a full hydro setup.

dove'd85 · Jan 16, 2009

rockmike said:
Its either do what youre saying or go with 3 link with panhard for the front link design.

At this point im leaning toward the 3 link set up.I just dont want to soak a grand into a full hydro setup.

you won't spend a grand if you don't buy PSC or any other brand name parts, like others have said before you can get a ram from surplus for dirt cheap, modify a stock pump build your own lines ect ect.

Pat · Jan 16, 2009

Cylinders (ram), pumps, and lines are the cheap part anyways. Nobody has mentioned where to get the control valve (orbital). $400 dollars at Northern Tool or mabey a used one? But thats the expensive part.

Either way a grand for steering will seem like a drop in the bucket once your done with the links and coilovers.

rockmike · Jan 16, 2009

Unerstude and great info guys,really appreciate you helping me with this ?

The plan never really was to use full hydro steering.I will build the inverted 4 link in the back.I just thought I would build the same style 4 link in front also if I could use the box set up.But as I studied up on it I found its not a real good way to go about.Thats why I asked to make sure what I learned about it was correct.You guys confermed what I thought I knew.

Its not a big deal im sure I can build a 3 link pan hard system that will work fine.

boxboy · Jan 16, 2009

when you build the 4-link in the rear make sure you build a sway bar into it as well... try to go with the longest sway bar you can fit:;

rockmike · Jan 16, 2009

boxboy said:
when you build the 4-link in the rear make sure you build a sway bar into it as well... try to go with the longest sway bar you can fit:;

The plan as of now will be to use the Currie antirock sway bar on the back.