Trailer tires???

I've had 3 blowouts on my enclosed and its not exactly fun or easy to change when it's loaded. Tires currently have about 12k miles on them, 70% ish tread and are not a year old.

History...

48' enclosed with 20' living quarters. Triple 8k 8 lug torsion axles. It weighs 11k empty.

1st tire blew with just my Jeep in the trailer. Rear tire passenger side. It was loaded in the normal spot near the rear of the garage. Motor was over the rear axle.

2nd tire blew with just my buggy in the trailer. Rear driver tire, buggy loaded in normal spot of the garage. Motor was over the rear axle.

3rd tire blew with my Jeep and a RZR in the trailer. Front driver tire, loaded the only way it will fit in the 25' I have to use.

Tires are G rated radial 285s on 16" Alcoas. When I bought them they were the "heavy service" package my normal wheel/tire supplier offers with the Alcoa. They weren't cheap!

Who has had luck with what for heavy service? I don't mind spending a few extra dollars to get great tires, it's getting expensive to buy replacement tires and I'm tired if beating my trailer to hell when a tire blows.

Am I asking too much to have better life from a tire?

Goodyear marathon is probably the best trailer tire made but I don't know if it's available in the size or load range that you need.

goodyear g159

perfect timing.

I just replaced the OEM near brand new 700miles **** ass Made in China no name tires on my new trailer this past weekend. 3 flats in that distance equals tossing those MF'ers.

BJ I know you guys run a ****load of miles, so you probably have better data. I have blown about every tire brand out there over the years, used to run whatever WalMart had in stock because theres always a WalMart open on the road in any given town.
I blew one out on the way to K-rocks and Blase and Beefy actually helped me change it. The tire shop in Mason had Carlisle's and I've ran them on every trailer since then. That was 2009 and since then I have had 1 flat/blowout in close to 60k trailer miles. And it was directly related to dropping a tire off the pavement west of Sanger on FM455 (narrow ass 2 lane with no shoulder).

Its nice when all of your trailers have the exact same tire as well.
Carlisle ST Radial 235/85r16 load range F, and I run them at 90psi.
Very last tire listed on page 43
http://www.carlisletransportationproducts.com/product/tires/trailers-toy-haulers-towables/tires44

They arent silver bullet tires, you still have to watch that trailer weight, and watch your speed. I'll run faster in cold temps, but summer running on hot Texas pavement with f-up a tire quick. I also try to never put myself in a situation to be backing up and turning while loaded, and really try to watch sharp turning loaded. Dont know if it matters. Unfortunately my new shop is a trailers worst nightmare for crossing the axles up, I hope I dont start having tire and wheel bearing problems cause of it.

The OP already has 235/85R16 Goodyear 14ply GRated tires.

First, triple axle torsion axles are very picky, you have to have the trailer loaded and hauling perfectly level or one axle sees too much weight, thus a tire bites the dust.

2nd, GY worked a deal with some of these damn trailer MFG's and said we make a heavy tire, you make a heavy trailer, they got no other options. And they did, there is no weighted competition in that size.

Only option is to watch how you load, or switch to single 17.5" wheels. See it all the time on heavy horse trailers. Unless you spend more money you are stuck with the constant worry of tires blowing with that setup

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I put 100 k a year on hankook dynapro AS tires. I have also used firestone transforce tires. In 7 years I have had 1 blowout. I load my trailer much heavier than your loading yours. What is the brand of tires you are running currently? Keep in mind, you drag your axles while turning! Putting a heavier than needed tire on your trailer will cause axle damage on the pressed rubber in the tube, not to mention a heavy tire is 10 times more violent when it blows out.
Keep in mind your most important issue is equal weight on torflex axles!!!!

The boat below weighs 18000. The trailer weighs 7000. Hankook and Firestone is the only tires I trust rolling under 300 grand at 70.

COLT said:

Putting a heavier than needed tire on your trailer will cause axle damage on the pressed rubber in the tube, not to mention a heavy tire is 10 times more violent when it blows out.

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Colt you said it much better than me. The heavy G rateds werent better for me, and I only learned it by accident.

Had the same problem . Switched to BFGooddrich Commercial T/A all season LT235/85R16 . Pick up at any local sams store . for 160-175 each . Havent had a problem with my trailer sense .

Trailer weighted 9000 empty and with both my buggy in it and loaded for a race tiped the scales at 24500 . Have not had a problem in 2 years with them .

My engine guy turned me on to these he has them on his 53ft enclosed trailer with 120k plus miles . trips to California and back for Ill all the time . Has not had a problem with them in over 5 years and the tread still looks like brand new .

Load your trailer, and try to get to a set of scales and weigh each axle individually if you can. Also a pic of your truck and trailer while loaded, I am curious how it looks from the side.

Over time torsion axles do and can break down, once that happens it will beat the tires to death. You might look through dexter axle's website and look up the wheel travel specs for your axle, see if it's traveling properly. I know it sounds like alot of work but it could catch a problem.

With the 4 scale pads on most CAT scales, you can usually get single axle weights pretty easily.
Would also be nice to see what the drive axle is getting put on it. That'll wear out some tires, and thats a place you dont want a blow out.

goodyear g-614 3750 lbs. @110psi bfg comm ta 3042lbs@80psi

Here is the suspect. I know it's a little tongue high and the rear tires are loaded heavier which isn't the best scenario. Short of adding lift blocks between the axles and frame I really don't have any choice in that. It rides the same way hooked to my new Dodge. This trailer is less than 1year old, I kept the wheels and tires from my old trailer. We made sure and put the tires back in the same position when swapped over. You can see the spare on the rear from the blowout that trip.




I ended up buying a set of F rated Carlisle tires that seemed to get great reviews. They were reasonably priced online and in stock. I will be mounting them next week and hopefully they do better than the junk that was on there.

keep us posted BJ, I hope the Carlisles work out for you like they have for me.

InDaShop said:

keep us posted BJ, I hope the Carlisles work out for you like they have for me.

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I ended up finding them pretty cheap. $133 each, $864 shipped to my shop for 6.

We are actually negotiating with the place to move all our wheel/tire purchases over tk him for new equipment. It's amazing how we were buying over 40-50 wheels and tires a month for 6+ years from a local supplier and the random guy blew them away with price and service. The tires were delivered to my shop in 2 days.

www.treaddepot.com

HAHHAAAA!!!
Mine came from Kauffman tire via my buddy Tom's shop, and yep that same $133, actually unless you rounded down you got a better deal on 6! laughing1 laughing1 laughing1

crawlin85cj said:

I ended up finding them pretty cheap. $133 each, $864 shipped to my shop for 6.

We are actually negotiating with the place to move all our wheel/tire purchases over tk him for new equipment. It's amazing how we were buying over 40-50 wheels and tires a month for 6+ years from a local supplier and the random guy blew them away with price and service. The tires were delivered to my shop in 2 days.

www.treaddepot.com

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Treaddepot is badass. I've literally saved hundreds of dollars on tires there, even tried to get local shops to price match and they wouldn't.

Then I carry my **** to Sam's Club or Walmart and get it mounted and balanced for $5/each

Do you all balance your trailer tires?

I didnt use to, but have for the past handful of years and seems like empty my junk pulls nicer, and have had less tire issues. My tire guy says it doesnt matter but all he does are mexican lawn trailers for around town.

InDaShop said:

HAHHAAAA!!!
Mine came from Kauffman tire via my buddy Tom's shop, and yep that same $133, actually unless you rounded down you got a better deal on 6! laughing1 laughing1 laughing1

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That's funny...in my browser it had Kaufman Tire highlighted before the URL. $863.84

I found MSRP listed at $220ish. That's some serious margin



That's a smoking deal on tires if they last!!! I'm pretty fired up about not changing a fukin tire every trip.

InDaShop said:

Do you all balance your trailer tires?

I didnt use to, but have for the past handful of years and seems like empty my junk pulls nicer, and have had less tire issues. My tire guy says it doesnt matter but all he does are mexican lawn trailers for around town.

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I have never balanced a trailer tire. I guess it would be cheap insurance especially if it added an extra 1k or so miles of life to them.