redneckengineered
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For some reason I get this feeling that the new "temporary" dash will become permanent and the badass miter joint cage sitting in the corner is probably never going to see the light of day
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TBItoy
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redneckengineered said:
The temporary dash and old cage looks way better and way more functional IMO.
fl-krawler
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TBItoy said:
I agree
Stinkbomb
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TBItoy said:
This. I kept my mouth shut long enough, as I hate posting about welding online, since so many people these days learn to weld from YouTube, and of course everything on the Internet is true, right?! Facts get mixed with opinions and then opinion/fact pissing matches come of it(Pirate is a fantastic example).
The whole "no grinder marks" and "want to show off the colors of the welds" ****, NO. That's for decorative pieces, not structural things, like a ROLL CAGE! I do more prep work on every mig weld I do, than you do for your tig welds. Anything and everything I tig, you would think it was going on the space shuttle(the cleanliness part, not beauty, I'm not a welding God and I don't have the steadiest hands, but I'll be damned if something as simple as prep work will get skipped), why, because that's 90% of the importance to tig welding, especially if you're using a -2 filler. No doubt you can weld like a damn machine, but the cutting apart and rewelding of tubing, to show off your welding ability, on a roll cage nonetheless, is foolish. For a chandelier, sure, but not for a cage. It also doesn't matter how good of a welder you are, if you're skipping over a very critical step in the process(prep), you're wasting your time and forming bad habits. Sure, this isn't a part for the space shuttle, it may also never fail, but if it WERE to fail? All the while building, knowing full well, that he WILL have his children in the back seat, that should be a major consideration for how it's put together, not artsy fartsy ****.
You can take me for a "faker" or an "Internet professional" if you desire, it would be ignorant on your part, or you can take advice from myself and others, who do this for a living(some of us are highly educated in the field, with REAL WORLD experience, not just time in a classroom). There are right and wrong ways to do things(welding related), there's more to it than pushing a puddle. Sure, you can "get by" at times, but if you're going to go after it, put 110% into it. Bad habits bring failure.
Sorry for the rant, but you have some serious ability, you just need some fine tuning. Maturity also plays a big role, but that's it's own subject and I'm not a psychiatrist.
Neal3000
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David, just my opinion but i think that what you need is someone else (like your girlfriend maybe?) to handle the Customer Relation, P.R., Internet/Social Media side of your business and you stay focused on what you do best. Stay on the down-low for a while and take on some regular fab work that you can knock out quick (like rzr cages etc) and make some decent money for more tools that you need, like a bender etc. Your one of my favorite characters in the offroad world, and definitely one of the most talented, please don't get discouraged! Learn and grow from your mistakes and don't try to do too much before your ready- maturity and moneywise.
redneckengineered
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updates?
JRoach321
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The thing about dynamite is that it's always fun to watch blow up. 
I hate to jump off the bandwagon here but man you guys crack me up, first you complain about "all the drama" and then after the man gives his closing arguments this thread gets 1,800 views and bumped like 6 times for what seems like people just looking to stir the pot. And for everybody saying he had plenty of time on the build, do you know his personal schedule? have you ever built a custom aluminum dash from scratch? have you ever cut a tube in half and TIG'd it back together? I know for a fact that a couple months wouldn't be enough time for me to knock out everything done in this thread even working on this thing 40 hrs a week, much less with the tools he has on hand on top of working another job. Now before you go thinking this is his grandma posting up in defense of Dynamite Design, I will say: Do I think that dash is the bee's knees? hell no, I like simple **** ( I would have been cool with what was in it when it got there, or the second temporary dash), is the new cage my style? nope, never saw anything wrong with the first one, but obviously the owner of the jeep wanted something different and I think it was stated several times that the point of this thread wasn't to build anything that has been done before. I can appreciate the time invested in both of them and the fact that it had to take a lot of forethought to make either of them even close to a functional part, I mean yea maybe making tubes into an oval isn't a very productive use of time or even the best idea design wise but heaven forbid somebody tries to build something unique rather than just adding more loops,swoops, swirls, and spikes.
I'd say bottom line is this thread got over 20,000 views and showed some quality fab work, if its purpose was to get the name out there then I'd say mission accomplished. Maybe lost a few fans, maybe gained a few, but one thing is for sure next time a Dynamite Design thread shows up I'd be lying if I said I wasn't going to check it out and so are all the haters. So maybe the OP gets a few more tools and knocks the next one out of the park for an owner that is looking for a simpler design and has a longer time frame for the build, then what? So to the OP: keep on keepin on, the South East fab world could use a few more talented fabricators that think outside of the box. Don't let a few people that would be quick to grab a 4.5" angle and their favorite grinding rock and start trying to "fluff and buff" that dash get you down.
I'd say bottom line is this thread got over 20,000 views and showed some quality fab work, if its purpose was to get the name out there then I'd say mission accomplished. Maybe lost a few fans, maybe gained a few, but one thing is for sure next time a Dynamite Design thread shows up I'd be lying if I said I wasn't going to check it out and so are all the haters. So maybe the OP gets a few more tools and knocks the next one out of the park for an owner that is looking for a simpler design and has a longer time frame for the build, then what? So to the OP: keep on keepin on, the South East fab world could use a few more talented fabricators that think outside of the box. Don't let a few people that would be quick to grab a 4.5" angle and their favorite grinding rock and start trying to "fluff and buff" that dash get you down.
redneckengineered
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pardyam said:
He's running a business. If I'm a paying customer I don't give a **** about his personal schedule or any other sob story. You deliver whatever is promised, quality work, and on time. That's the way business works, if not you'll be on EBT which you may very well be based on your analysis of the matter.
bad80cj
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redneckengineered said:
:****:
Now that's some funny **** Andrew. Keeping it real!
Jduck
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pardyam said:
thats some BS using the day job as an execuse as to why the build didnt get done in time. He knew the deadline well in advance, it was even mentioned very early in the thread. That is poor management of time and over committing to what he was capable of doing. Heres ya some examples....The first buggy was built from scratch in 3 months by myself and couple friends and then it was drug out to california for its shake down run all while working a 50-60hr week DAY job, and the second was built in 6 weeks...all while working a full time day job. its all in how organized and how well you plan your time.
Jduck said:thats some BS using the day job as an execuse as to why the build didnt get done in time. He knew the deadline well in advance, it was even mentioned very early in the thread. That is poor management of time and over committing to what he was capable of doing. Heres ya some examples....The first buggy was built from scratch in 3 months by myself and couple friends and then it was drug out to california for its shake down run all while working a 50-60hr week DAY job, and the second was built in 6 weeks...all while working a full time day job. its all in how organized and how well you plan your time.
Yea I get what youre saying here, and that's a hell of an accomplishment to be able to throw a couple nice looking buggies together in that short of a time. I know most people couldn't do that ( but thats because we're probably all just your common :afro: collecting a gubment check anyways :). And yea I agree time management probably wasn't the best it could have been, hard to say without actually being there, but the point I was trying to make was that there is a big difference in what was going on here and just building a buggy/caging a TJ or whatever, and most people don't realize that/ can't appreciate it because they've never done it . Yea at some point fabrication is basically all the same thing: cut, notch,bend, sand, weld; but throwing together a chassis and MIG welding it up filling an 3/16th" gap here and there is not the same thing as putting together a 137 piece aluminum dash all while making sure the tolerances are such that you can actually TIG the thing together instead of just watching it part like the red sea every time you strike an arc. And I mean no disrespect towards either of your rigs by saying that, they both look like nice buggies that I'd love to wheel, just saying that most the people hating on this thread that are all like "hell me and Jimbo threw a cage in my cousins rzr in a weekend drunk as a skunk,and this hack cant build a damn roll cage for a TJ in 3 months" aren't comparing apples to apples here.
redneckengineered said:
Yea, you seem to have your own personal vendetta here for some reason, not sure why and don't really care. You saying that's how business works and all that is correct for any normal business, but I don't think it's exactly applicable here, I mean the way I read it he is trying to get started and his buddy basically fronted him some tools and said make my already cool jeep cooler in exchange for free labor, and hopefully it takes off for you. A deadline isn't met on the very first project between a couple buddies, big ****ing deal; believe it or not it does happen in the custom fab world more often than you think. Yea I realize you have a sweet WOD buggy and all that and I'm sure your experience there was a good one, I'm not saying it always happens or that if I'm a customer at a legit shop I'm going to be happy about it, but sometimes **** just happens, and in this case if I bought a friend a couple **** box tools, and he knocked out a sweet fuel cell/tool box deal and then finished my cage and dash when I got back from MOAB, or wherever the trip was to, then I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Let me know when I can drop off my rig and an eastwood multi-purpose machine at Blue Torch, WOD, M&M, Jims Garage, etc and come back pick up with its new cage,dash,and fuel cell. Oh and your suggestion that I am on welfare is laughable, at best, so thanks for that
Anyways, I've said my piece and I got no dog in this fight, so I'm out.
redneckengineered
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pardyam said:Yea, you seem to have your own personal vendetta here for some reason, not sure why and don't really care. You saying that's how business works and all that is correct for any normal business, but I don't think it's exactly applicable here, I mean the way I read it he is trying to get started and his buddy basically fronted him some tools and said make my already cool jeep cooler in exchange for free labor, and hopefully it takes off for you. A deadline isn't met on the very first project between a couple buddies, big ****ing deal; believe it or not it does happen in the custom fab world more often than you think. Yea I realize you have a sweet WOD buggy and all that and I'm sure your experience there was a good one, I'm not saying it always happens or that if I'm a customer at a legit shop I'm going to be happy about it, but sometimes **** just happens, and in this case if I bought a friend a couple **** box tools, and he knocked out a sweet fuel cell/tool box deal and then finished my cage and dash when I got back from MOAB, or wherever the trip was to, then I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Let me know when I can drop off my rig and an eastwood multi-purpose machine at Blue Torch, WOD, M&M, Jims Garage, etc and come back pick up with its new cage,dash,and fuel cell. Oh and your suggestion that I am on welfare is laughable, at best, so thanks for that
For the sake of argument let's just say I agree 100% with your last two posts. That being said, do you think this thread would have gotten to the point that it has if David hadn't overloaded his mouth with his ass every other post? Did you even get to read the thread before he deleted all that ****?
No vendetta, just annoyed by stupidity.
74_Chevota
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Unfortunately I know more about this than you do, and your just sounding ignorant. He is a customer. Period.
And the deadline matters to me because I'm sharing a trailer with the owner to Moab.
And the deadline matters to me because I'm sharing a trailer with the owner to Moab.
pardyam said:Yea, you seem to have your own personal vendetta here for some reason, not sure why and don't really care. You saying that's how business works and all that is correct for any normal business, but I don't think it's exactly applicable here, I mean the way I read it he is trying to get started and his buddy basically fronted him some tools and said make my already cool jeep cooler in exchange for free labor, and hopefully it takes off for you. A deadline isn't met on the very first project between a couple buddies, big ****ing deal; believe it or not it does happen in the custom fab world more often than you think. Yea I realize you have a sweet WOD buggy and all that and I'm sure your experience there was a good one, I'm not saying it always happens or that if I'm a customer at a legit shop I'm going to be happy about it, but sometimes **** just happens, and in this case if I bought a friend a couple **** box tools, and he knocked out a sweet fuel cell/tool box deal and then finished my cage and dash when I got back from MOAB, or wherever the trip was to, then I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Let me know when I can drop off my rig and an eastwood multi-purpose machine at Blue Torch, WOD, M&M, Jims Garage, etc and come back pick up with its new cage,dash,and fuel cell. Oh and your suggestion that I am on welfare is laughable, at best, so thanks for that
Dynamite Design
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Safe to say I can't take back stumbling through the rough start. I'm going to move forward with a PR guy, since the internet is not my element. The owner is a great guy and I will do whatever I can for him.
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Dynamite Design said:
You may of missed the deadline and run your mouth but the work i seen from the lack of shop/tools. you've earned my respect
good luck, I think you'll do alright just dont put a deadline on one if your gonna go to the extreme on the work.
TacomaJD
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redneckengineered said:
I like the way you think, you and I would get along great lol.
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