Toyota guys

So im buying another rig and putting my one tons under it and making it a daily driver. so im asking around. whats a good aftermarket or from a stock rig. whats a good set of rear leafs. the rig may be a 4runner or std. cab toyota. i was looking around on marlin, there springs any good. i know alot of soft and long springs but im lookin for a smooth ride but still flexy on the trail/

Any input

63 chevy springs for the rear.

yours sat low. did you use blocks or anything

Brian H said:

63 chevy springs for the rear.

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Too long and limiting, Basically the double shackle does all the work. If ya got the coin id go trail gear.

Are ya gonna narrow the axles??

I have the Marlin in the rear, it is my DD as well..flexy, but still good at 65mph.

Buy an unbuilt toyota. You have to consider the fact that the only aftermarket that youre going to be using from a built rig is the drivetrain. Basically, the optimal thing you could get would be dual cases w/ 4.7's already installed. you will have to CHOP those one tons down, if you wanna drive it on the street (obviously). i actually pondered buying those axles from you when you were parting out your truck. Personally, I like 1st gen runners for their style. But if you think about it, "built" usually involves a lot of work on the axles, especially in toyotas. Why pay 5 g's for a rig with dual cases, gears and lockers in axles you wont use, tires and wheels you wont use, and suspension that you might replace? all those aftermarket parts will just be a trouble to part out, too. The only common aftermarket thing you would use would be the dual cases, which would cost you just over 1000 bucks to build yourself. So the price of a built rig is somewhat pointless other than the drivetrain. As for springs, your unsprung weight will be significantly greater with your one tons, thus the springs will be stretched quite a bit more and droopier overall. That'll be sick, man. I'm looking forward to the build.

just my two pennies worth!

-Tyler

I run the Marlin 4" (USA made by Betts Spring) front and rear and they work really well. They were a little stiff in the rear so I removed a couple of leafs. The quality is top notch. Trail Gearuke:

I have heard that the double shackle and 63's combo is trouble, actually. There's a pretty extensive thread on pirate linked to the FAQ. Just what I've read, not personal experience though. I would just get a standard set of 4" trail gear/marlin/all pro springs. I think 5" springs are a little too tall. I think I might even go with the 3" with my solid axle swap and a 1" hanger and a lot of chopp'n, i think i will be able to fit a 38 or 39.5" tire. What are your other plans for the truck?

Paulie said:

yours sat low. did you use blocks or anything

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no i didnt. How big are you wanting to go with the runner?

MIG'DHORSE said:

I have heard that the double shackle and 63's combo is trouble, actually. There's a pretty extensive thread on pirate linked to the FAQ. Just what I've read, not personal experience though. I would just get a standard set of 4" trail gear/marlin/all pro springs. I think 5" springs are a little too tall. I think I might even go with the 3" with my solid axle swap and a 1" hanger and a lot of chopp'n, i think i will be able to fit a 38 or 39.5" tire. What are your other plans for the truck?

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I didnt used the double shackle set up. I moved the made a new mount for the toyota shackle to mount to a few inches back from the original mount.

Brian H said:

I didnt used the double shackle set up. I moved the made a new mount for the toyota shackle to mount to a few inches back from the original mount.

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word. the 63" spring is sweet. it's evident in how many people use it. i was just talking about the double shackle setup.

MIG'DHORSE said:

word. the 63" spring is sweet. it's evident in how many people use it. i was just talking about the double shackle setup.

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I didnt use it because i dont like the fact that the springs can unload so freely. I would rather lose a little bit of flex and have the spring firmly atached than get into a tight position and have it unload going down hill.

Brian H said:

I didnt use it because i dont like the fact that the springs can unload so freely. I would rather lose a little bit of flex and have the spring firmly atached than get into a tight position and have it unload going down hill.

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exactly.. and that stability is what is sought after with leaf springs. why ruin it just for a little bit more flex? haha.

You can get more lift out of them by making bigger mounts. I made a spring perch/lift block also to give it alittle more. I didnt want to make it to tall and had full intentions of littng the sawsall have fun.

oh yea i remember seeing that truck before. always liked it with the fresh beadlocks and everything. nice work.

anyway, side-tracked... paulie: go for just about anything. the trail gear springs are cheaper, and cheaper made. some people dont like em... but some people dont wanna spend 400 bones for a pair of leaf springs.

If the length of the chevy's is not appealing to you, use Ford ranger. They are 56" and flex well. Run them backwards, meaning put the long end towards the front of your toy. I have a buggy leaf as well, but don't suggest it, for it to unloads and stability is NICE. I have run the same pair of ranger leafs for 4 yrs and no problems.

Chevs without the double shackle bite manhood. Thats all. I have been there

Bunk said:

Chevs without the double shackle bite manhood. Thats all. I have been there

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bite manhood... hahaha. i havent heard that one before. respect.

chevvy springs SUCK A** I have redone a couple rigs and replaced them with waggy's with FAR better results....

As for the axles---full width axles on the street---Even with 4" BS wheels thats going to be hella waide and what a waiste to burn up on the street...