wheel spacers?

jjduedall · Nov 29, 2006

i was wondering if anyone has a few pictures of wheel spacers from a few different angles. my dad is a machinest and im going into the shop within the next few days to build some. im working towards something similar that trail gear sells.

the hole that the existing stud slides into has a tapered stop so the old lug nut pulls it tight correct? or is it just a non-tapered hole and a reguler nut used to fasten the spacer and the old lug nuts are not used?
:hi:

Six-Nine · Nov 29, 2006

jjduedall said:
i was wondering if anyone has a few pictures of wheel spacers from a few different angles. my dad is a machinest and im going into the shop within the next few days to build some. im working towards something similar that trail gear sells.

the hole that the existing stud slides into has a tapered stop so the old lug nut pulls it tight correct? or is it just a non-tapered hole and a reguler nut used to fasten the spacer and the old lug nuts are not used?
:hi:

Mine are tapered.

CrustyJeep · Nov 29, 2006

Mine were tapered as well. They bolt on just like a steel wheel would. I wouldn't even consider running them without proper taper.

jjduedall · Nov 29, 2006

did you guys use your old lug nuts to bolt them up ?

64FJ40 · Nov 30, 2006

jjduedall said:
did you guys use your old lug nuts to bolt them up ?

The nuts on the studs in the picture are the ones you would use to fasten the spacer to the truck. Then you'd use your old lug nuts to bolt the wheel to the spacer.

How much does it cost in materials (including 12 lug studs and the open-ended nuts) to build them?

jjduedall · Nov 30, 2006

the aluminum is free. and i guess the studs are however much they are at the parts store.. i should only need 6 studs and 6 lugs/nuts per spacer.. since the other 6 are already on the truck

CrustyJeep · Nov 30, 2006

jjduedall said:
did you guys use your old lug nuts to bolt them up ?

You would want to get the smallest plain nuts available. No chrome fancy ones, just plain nuts like in the picture. For example, for 1/2" studs, get 3/4" nuts, not the larger 13/16".

I tried 13/16" nuts and couldn't fit the socket into the hole :;

(This post has a naughty ring to it :haha

64FJ40 · Nov 30, 2006

jjduedall said:
i should only need 6 studs and 6 lugs/nuts per spacer.. since the other 6 are already on the truck

I only said 12 since I assumed you were making a pair.

Heck if you can make them up cheap, sell a few. Even if it's just the aluminum blank drilled to fit and people can get their own studs and nuts.

jjduedall · Nov 30, 2006

yes i will actually be making 4 spacers.. i thought about making some and selling them but i think that me and a buddy(yotaboy4life on here) are going to try them out and make sure that all goes well with them first. hopefully if they fall off ,, they fall off on his truck:flipoff:

MIG'DHORSE · Nov 30, 2006

yea I've been wondering how legit wheel spacers are after a buddy of mine told me to get the sky axle widening kit instead so the spacer doesnt back off and kill me on the freeway.

skrause · Nov 30, 2006

CrustyJeep said:
For example, for 1/2" studs, get 3/4" nuts, not the larger 13/16".

Being a Toy guy, that would piss me off to no end. My lugs are 13/16", why use a different (smaller) size on the spacer? I have had no issue getting a socket to fit into mine.

But ya, standard open lug nuts and make sure to use the proper tapered type seat when you machine them.

skrause · Nov 30, 2006

MIG'DHORSE said:
yea I've been wondering how legit wheel spacers are after a buddy of mine told me to get the sky axle widening kit instead so the spacer doesnt back off and kill me on the freeway.

I have the original version of those spacers on the front of my truck, from Front Range. It just eliminates one more thing to worry about, only your brake disks are relying on the extra set of fasteners. With proper maintenance a standard spacer is not dangerous. But they must be checked regularly to be sure they're not coming loose because if they do they WILL fail in a rather spectacular fashion and most likely while travelling at speed.

yodaboy4life · Nov 30, 2006

heck yea if they fall off they fall off but at least then ill have an excuse to sas my truck there is always a advantige to disadvantiges jjduedall:kissmyass: :flipoff: :cheer:

CrustyJeep · Nov 30, 2006

skrause said:
Being a Toy guy, that would piss me off to no end. My lugs are 13/16", why use a different (smaller) size on the spacer? I have had no issue getting a socket to fit into mine.

1) Did you miss the "for example" part?

2) WTF would a Toyota have a 13/16" lug nut? You mean 21MM or 22MM?

3) The size of the lug nut that holds the spacer on is critical because of the size of the hole it fits into. Real world constraint > your prefered lug nut size.

4) 3/4" > 13/16" :flipoff:

lilyota · Nov 30, 2006

nuts are 21 mm stud are about $2.50 each at schucks just make sure you put locktight on the spacer ones

jjduedall · Nov 30, 2006

ok... so the nuts on the studs in the picture dont actually go to those studs? those go to the original studs correct? and the old lugs go on those new studs?

CrustyJeep · Nov 30, 2006

Yes.

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NotMatt · Dec 1, 2006

Just make sure before you build them that you can get the tolerances on the lug spacing perfect. They WILL work themselves loose if you don't get it spot-on.

I've been running Marlin's 1.5" spacers all the way around on my rig for quite a while now and never had a problem with them. I used to just have a pair on the rear when I had the wagoneer axles under my XJ. I drove it everywhere to the trails, wheeled it, and drove it home... never had any issues. Now I have them front and back on my YJ thanks to high-steer arm clearance on the front, and have never thought twice about having them up front.

As long as you use the right lug nuts and check them every once in a while (I do it whenever I have a reason to have the wheels and tires off... which is a lot it seems), they will be fine.