another 1ton nOOb question

[muchado]

So I cracked open this 14 bolt that was supposed to be 4.56--that I was snagging for $100... too good to be true, ended up being a 3.73 diff...

Since I now have a detroit and gears for my front 60, what should I do for the rear?

I figured 14 bolt cause for $100 with the right gears I couldn't beat it... but if I gotta re-gear and find a spool or carrier, you're talkin $400 now AT LEAST. Is there a better rear axle I should go hunt for than a 14 bolt to stick under there if I gotta drop the jack down on gears anyways? There is a couple 1 ton late 70's fords and several heavy duty vans up at the pickN pull so $100 will get me an axle... Thanks in advance I'm clueless

 

[Bones]

Call Kelly is your first step. He might have some 4.56's and weld that bitch up. Spools cost $$ I would not run anything else in the rear for the $$ you can't beat a 14B

 

[BamaTJ]

**** I had a set of 4.56's I sold cheap out of my CUCV axle. The carrier break is 4.56 on those so you should be fine with the stock carrier. A 14b is cheap and dependable, but it is an anchor and heavy as ****.

 

[muchado]

**** I had a set of 4.56's I sold cheap out of my CUCV axle. The carrier break is 4.56 on those so you should be fine with the stock carrier. A 14b is cheap and dependable, but it is an anchor and heavy as ****.

I could use the 3.73 carrier?? I might thing twice about this one then...

Yea wish I could find a CUCV axle! most of them have detroits in rear right??

And yes Bones welding the spiders is what I was planning on, but if the 3.73 carrier wouldn't work with 4.56 gears(I wasnt sure where the carriers changed) then I'd be fawked and might as well get a spool if I'm gonna have to replace carrier. Carrier + welding wire = free tho so I'm good for that.

 

[3 tons o fun]

You can get the gears sets with a thick ring gear so you can still use your carrier I went from 373s to 513s with the same carrier

 

[muchado]

You can get the gears sets with a thick ring gear so you can still use your carrier I went from 373s to 513s with the same carrier

Awesome, thanks for the head's up

 

[BamaTJ]

I am trying to think back to when I built mine. It was a CUCV with 4.56's and Detroit. I believe the carrier break is 4.56+, so I went with the 5.13 Thin (factory) gear set and reused my carrier. If you go with the 4.56 thick gearset you can reuse your carrier and just have to buy the new ring and pinion, install kit. Machinewave can get you that for dirt cheap and you would be back to having $300 or so in the axle. Shave the lip off that pig before you install it, you will regret it later if you dont

 

[3 tons o fun]

Shave the lip off that pig before you install it, you will regret it later if you dont

Yes, Yes you will. It may not seem like much clearance gain, but it will slide rather than act like an anchor.

 

[muchado]

Yes, Yes you will. It may not seem like much clearance gain, but it will slide rather than act like an anchor.

10-4!

Ya i was plannin on it... Do I need to shave enough to still get the bolt in the bottom hole or do u get rid of that and plate it??

Thanks for all the help guys

 

[muchado]

Should I jump on that?
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/639181595.html

Now come to think of it, the 14 bolt that I looked at had 41 teeth on the ring but we didnt count pinion, just tried looking at the stamp markings I thought it was an 11 tooth pinion but if it were a 9 tooth it would be a 4.56

 

[Bones]

Should I jump on that?
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/639181595.html

Now come to think of it, the 14 bolt that I looked at had 41 teeth on the ring but we didnt count pinion, just tried looking at the stamp markings I thought it was an 11 tooth pinion but if it were a 9 tooth it would be a 4.56

double check yours first and if not get $100 out of it, if not 4.56 and buy that one for $200 stones??? Then weld/disk brake it. :afro:

 

[blacksheep10]

sucks that those have dried up, ****ing 4wheel and off road mag and the article they did : the cucv's used to be obtainable. Rob, the dually will need new hubs to not be 5" narrower than the front. gears and kit will end up in the $250 range, so that's a wash. All I have right now are a 4.56 under the sheep and 4.56 under pinky, the other 3 that are out are all 3.73. :-\ I could maybe find you hubs and give you cores for the calipers and some disc brackets (I burn those now) for the dually. that would get you into it pretty cheap.

 

[muchado]

sucks that those have dried up, ****ing 4wheel and off road mag and the article they did : the cucv's used to be obtainable. Rob, the dually will need new hubs to not be 5" narrower than the front. gears and kit will end up in the $250 range, so that's a wash. All I have right now are a 4.56 under the sheep and 4.56 under pinky, the other 3 that are out are all 3.73. :-\ I could maybe find you hubs and give you cores for the calipers and some disc brackets (I burn those now) for the dually. that would get you into it pretty cheap.

Thanks Kelly, I'm gonna go double check that axle at Clayton's place see what gears it is.. I'm retarded and only counted ring gear--well Clayton said 41 tooth is gonna be 3.73--he was guessin' on the pinion... So I may not totally be SOL on that, but i'm guessing it's a dually rear, I'm gonna have to take a tape measure to it.

I figured I could use the drums but after lookin at them fawk that. I got into the rest of this swap for pretty cheap but you know me I'm tryin to keep it that way. Any parts you can source, burn, etc. for the disc swap is appreciated

 

[InDaShop]

hell buy the dually axle, and narrow a front end to match. BUGGY STYLE!!! No reason to be so WIDE!

 

[muchado]

hell buy the dually axle, and narrow a front end to match. BUGGY STYLE!!! No reason to be so WIDE!

I got H2 wheels son(like 5.5" backspace), it'll be not so wide Also only way I'm gonna fit 42's and stay low is to be low AND wide

I'd rather that than tall and narrow, be a floppin' machine laughing1

 

[blacksheep10]

dually rears are way narrow wyatt. they kind of work if you plan the rig around them.

 

[Marty]

I am trying to think back to when I built mine. It was a CUCV with 4.56's and Detroit. I believe the carrier break is 4.56+, so I went with the 5.13 Thin (factory) gear set and reused my carrier. If you go with the 4.56 thick gearset you can reuse your carrier and just have to buy the new ring and pinion, install kit. Machinewave can get you that for dirt cheap and you would be back to having $300 or so in the axle. Shave the lip off that pig before you install it, you will regret it later if you dont

Ya, randys has them. They are Spicer Brand, and a little more than yukons, but yukon has no 5.13s for a 4.56 and up carrier. I plan on this, because I have a CUCV with the detroit already there.[

 

[muchado]

Found a SRW locally 4.10's and supposebly a detroit, gonna go look at it tomarrow or Saturday. Then probably just go snag a set of gears for it. Hell if I gotta buy a gearset I may end up doing 5.13's---especially since I'm keepin the 22RE motor.

 

[muchado]

Found a SRW locally 4.10's and supposebly a detroit, gonna go look at it tomarrow or Saturday. Then probably just go snag a set of gears for it. Hell if I gotta buy a gearset I may end up doing 5.13's---especially since I'm keepin the 22RE motor.

Picked the axle up today... 4.56 and a detroit for $200.. laughing1

 

[1TONZR2]

**** me, thats cheap for one of those. I hate you.