Are 47 tlb's too much for tons?

pholmann · Jan 18, 2015

Thinking about trading my 44's for a set of tlb's. With chromos, would that be too much tire for a dana 60? Anyone ran them on tons?

muddinmetal · Jan 18, 2015

I know Gary Smith busted chromo 60s everytime he went out... but he hasn't had much more luck with rocks, but that is probably more his "style" than anything

pholmann · Jan 18, 2015

I know Charlie (fordcontraption) busts em all the time on his douche and a halves. I also don't really beat on my **** senselessly to saying Charlie does but I strategize my path and plan. I'm not a bouncer by any mean. I'm a crawler. My rig will also be pretty light. Not all the excess bouncer style tubing in my chassis. 5.3/th400 bla bla bla.

1tonyj · Jan 18, 2015

Big diff in weight. A 44 tsl is roughly 130 lbs per tire without wheel and a 47ltb is around 175. Then also depends on rim size and make as to how much it will add to the total weight. I have broken a few stock shafts in my rear steer rockwell with 47s. My front holds up fine. But my GVW is pretty heavy.

1tonyj · Jan 18, 2015

Forgot to ad that one of my wheeling buddies runs a Blue Torch chassis on tons and 47s. He has RCVs. ...beats the crap outta it. Never seen him break a shaft but he has broken a few ring and pinions.

KPatterson · Jan 18, 2015

Never broke my HP60,

EGarner · Jan 18, 2015

Re: Re: Are 47 tlb's too much for tons?

1tonyj said:
Forgot to ad that one of my wheeling buddies runs a Blue Torch chassis on tons and 47s. He has RCVs. ...beats the crap outta it. Never seen him break a shaft but he has broken a few ring and pinions.

Tim broke one rcv stub. . . . He had all the weight of the rig on that one corner though!

al1tonyota · Jan 18, 2015

47 ltb's aren't a crawling tire they are hard ass rubber and you will have to spin them to make it up anything! On a different nite Shane Keller's old green buggy had deep paddle cut ltbs and 9" axles! Never saw him break anything with a built ass race motor!

TBItoy · Jan 18, 2015

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al1tonyota said:
47 ltb's aren't a crawling tire they are hard ass rubber and you will have to spin them to make it up anything! On a different nite Shane Keller's old green buggy had deep paddle cut ltbs and 9" axles! Never saw him break anything with a built ass race motor!

Agree. 47 LTB sucks for crawling traction, the size and tread pattern are really cool, but they just don't work like you think they should.

mdo817 · Jan 18, 2015

KPatterson said:
Never broke my HP60,

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pholmann · Jan 18, 2015

So would my 44's be better for crawling. I've always ran tsl's on everything. I read several things on the Internet that said they were softer than tsl's. Is that not accurate? I saw a rig at harlan with uni of portals and 47's make it up your turn like it was nothing. What's the strengths of an ltb over a tsl and visa versa?

al1tonyota · Jan 18, 2015

They are a harder compound than tsl's a 44 pitbulls would be a better choice if you want a bigger tire and will be crawling they do however have softer sidewalls and cut sometimes my dads buggy weighs 5800# and has cut a sidewall 5-6 times but we try to drive it like a bouncer a lot!

SFAZR2Dave · Jan 18, 2015

pholmann said:
So would my 44's be better for crawling.

Yes, I had some 47's for a minute (5+ years ago), they sucked on just about everything, except mud. Even grooved them, still were horrible. Ended up trading them for a set of 44 TSL's.

1tonyj · Jan 18, 2015

I've ran both. ..my 44 tsls were softer and prolly better for all around crawling. That being said I run the 47s at the moment ...with my long wheel base the height helps me out. I do find I run at lower pressures than my 44s to get the tire to flex...and now that they are about 60% tread they work better. New they are stiff and would def recommend grooving them.

pholmann · Jan 18, 2015

Ok cool. Thanks for the info. I guess I'll keep my 44's then until I get rich and not famous and can afford set of 43 stickies.

nhl_bullitt · Jan 18, 2015

Funny this is on here. Just today I was talking to a friend about how I never see LTBs. I damn near clicked to buy a set of 40s at one point but was concerned that no one I know has seen them in action.

fordcontraption01 · Jan 18, 2015

I've got a set and they do kinda suck ass on some stuff. I cut mine like tsls and they do some better but when you get the air down on em and they bite shits gonna break :****:

KPatterson · Jan 18, 2015

mdo817 said:
Rat Hole @ River Rock

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Yup, it was on its side later that night after a little moonshine :smoke:

09zkrankin · Jan 18, 2015

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fordcontraption01 said:
I've got a set and they do kinda suck ass on some stuff. I cut mine like tsls and they do some better but when you get the air down on em and they bite shits gonna break :****:

I've got the 40's and like you said when they bite, **** breaks, took out a hp60 inner/outer last time out

jp fan · Jan 19, 2015

This guy has been all over Harlan for many years he hammered on it for awhile but no luck on your turn last spring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72RmszH3RBI

and here is a older one from back in 2012 running lions den in reverse didn't need a winch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8t1f20GEXI