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everything I have ever sold has been listed OBO and have probably never bought anything second hand at the listed price. If someone wont haggle a little on the price then I usually wont buy no matter how good of a deal. Guess i'm a little like Wyatt, missed out on some good deals in the past just from being a cheap ass and trying to save $50. I will always listen to an offer no matter how ridiculous. The part about buying and selling that pisses me off the most is when someone makes an offer less than you are asking and you agree to the deal then they come back with well... I cant afford that much I only got $xxx will you take that? Im guilty of the What's your bottom dollar question mainly because I will always take less than what the listed price is. In the same sense I always say "well...whats your best offer?'' Negotiating is all part of the fun to me. I enjoy it.