Dodge Truck - Price???

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

Looking for some opinions please -- carefull what I ask for huh - but anyway....

I have been offered a trade and have to make a decision pretty quick - like today. I have a 1999 Dodge 2500 with cummins and 5 speed - 67,500 miles on it. In pretty good shape except for the usually Dodge paint issues - below is a picure.

Trade offered is a 2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins with 6 speed quad cab with 47,000 miles. Guy owes $25,000 on the truck, mines is paid for. He want to give me $$11,500 for my truck and I take the remaining balance on the new truc - $13,500. NADA retail on my truck in something like $11,700 and NADA retail on his is $25,000. I don't know anyti=hing about the new dodges and am struggling with this decision obviously to the point of posing on the interweb.

Chime in here...

Cole · Nov 13, 2008

Depends on whether you want a truck payment or not. Plus I don't think the newer trucks get as good as mileage as the older ones.

muchado · Nov 13, 2008

I wish I didn't have a truck payment---depends on that although it wouldn't be THAT bad... Still truck payment sucks :dunno:

someone want an excursion? PM for payoff amt.

Bones · Nov 13, 2008

For me it'd be do you need the quad cab? is it set up for a goose?

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

No goose neck hitch in the new truck but my traler is a bumper pull. I drove the truck last night and the only thing I did not like about it was I could not make the damn thing smoke no mater how much I was on it and it's just to damn quite to have a cummins.

Toddy · Nov 13, 2008

Throw a box on it and it will smoke. And i here ya on the quite truck . Wish they still sounded like the old 12V trucks. Dont even seem like you are driving a diesel truck.

Toddy

blacksheep10 · Nov 13, 2008

I have pr4etty much the twin to the one you are looking at. bought mine with 47K miles on it strangely enough, ha.
Mine was worth 32K when I bought it for 28. it is now worth about 21 because the market fell the **** off.
have you put a pump on your 99 yet? do you have a fuel pressure gauge? that bish will go out on you, I've put 2 on. vp44's suck ass.
as for the milage, about the same. the 12v's did great, the early 24v's are kind of shitty, between my 00, heath's 02, and another guy's 99 none of us can break 16 to save our lives. another guy with an 02 is pulling down 20. wtf.
my 03 gets 22 if I drive it easy, 14 towing to bama and back weighing 17K,
you can make them smoke
I would say he is upside down for sure. NADA is wrong on diesels right now. you can get his same truck for less, like 21 or so. They just don't bring the money right now. Now, if you can get him to give you 15 for yours or make it so you can pay about 12K or less to trade up I'd do it

B Gillespie · Nov 13, 2008

If you are going to finance the difference in the trucks, calculate the actual amount you will pay over the life of the loan as well.

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

I just said no to the trade - it was hard. I really wanted that truck but with oil burners as cheap as the are now there are others out there and the payment would have sucked to I guess

wizzo · Nov 13, 2008

for me the first thing to look at is the payment, since you don't have one now.

truck to truck the '06 would be nicer inside and out, more power from the factory. if you haven't changed the vp on your current truck, you will at some point and thats an easy grand for the pump, plus what ever you pay someone to put it on, unless you know how to do it yourself. most vp trucks get 16 mpg average, where the common rail trucks normally see 18 - 20 or a little more with a mild chip. you can get the common rails to smoke if thats what you want, thats no prob.

now is a good time to be buying a diesel, not really a good time to be getting rid of one but if you can get 12 -13 k for yours, you'll be doing pretty good.

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

blacksheep10 said:
I have pr4etty much the twin to the one you are looking at. bought mine with 47K miles on it strangely enough, ha.
Mine was worth 32K when I bought it for 28. it is now worth about 21 because the market fell the **** off.
have you put a pump on your 99 yet? do you have a fuel pressure gauge? that bish will go out on you, I've put 2 on. vp44's suck ass.
as for the milage, about the same. the 12v's did great, the early 24v's are kind of shitty, between my 00, heath's 02, and another guy's 99 none of us can break 16 to save our lives. another guy with an 02 is pulling down 20. wtf.
my 03 gets 22 if I drive it easy, 14 towing to bama and back weighing 17K,
you can make them smoke
I would say he is upside down for sure. NADA is wrong on diesels right now. you can get his same truck for less, like 21 or so. They just don't bring the money right now. Now, if you can get him to give you 15 for yours or make it so you can pay about 12K or less to trade up I'd do it

No I have not put a pump on this truck yet but I undestand that they are not cheap. I really need some gauges anyway but all I have in teh way of a tuner on the truck is a plug in Superchips brand that i keep on towsafe mode and have 4" stright pipe.

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

wizzo said:
for me the first thing to look at is the payment, since you don't have one now.

truck to truck the '06 would be nicer inside and out, more power from the factory. if you haven't changed the vp on your current truck, you will at some point and thats an easy grand for the pump, plus what ever you pay someone to put it on, unless you know how to do it yourself. most vp trucks get 16 mpg average, where the common rail trucks normally see 18 - 20 or a little more with a mild chip. you can get the common rails to smoke if thats what you want, thats no prob.

now is a good time to be buying a diesel, not really a good time to be getting rid of one but if you can get 12 -13 k for yours, you'll be doing pretty good.

I get average 16 mpg with my truk unloaded and that is mostly in town driving. All he would give was $11,500 which is most likley fair but hell I just paid $16,000 for it 1/ 1/2 year ago and it is getting hard to find those trucks with 5 speed and low miles.

Cubby · Nov 13, 2008

If your truck hasn't ate a VP yet, I would put a new Lift Pump on ASAP if you haven't already.

techtafab · Nov 13, 2008

it's a Dodge thing :dunno:

;D

imarockfan · Nov 13, 2008

Yep,the lift pump is what kills the vp pumps,gets weak then starves the vp.They have a new updated lift pump that goes in the tank.No problem seen with those yet.

blacksheep10 · Nov 13, 2008

imarockfan said:
Yep,the lift pump is what kills the vp pumps,gets weak then starves the vp.They have a new updated lift pump that goes in the tank.No problem seen with those yet.

so tell me why when I'm running the factory LP that you shouldn't see under 5 psi (internet rumor) at WOT, but with the in tank factory replacement it can have 5 at idle and zero at throttle.
buddy heath went in and had his retrofit done. he has a FASS sitting on the floor mind you. now he doesn't ever see above 5 psi. dealer says its on volume and he has plenty of volume. what makes pressure? a pump starting to see any restiction at all and building pressure. 0 psi sounds like there isn't enough to get it done but I'm not a tech. now, here's the pickle. when you have the in tank update done they take you factory pickup out and put one in that has a pump hanging on it. problem with this is if you want an external lift pump (if he wants to put his fass on) he doen't have the pickup to get it done. I wouldn't jump right on the in tank deal if it were me. its better if you trust it, but there's no going back unless you get your stock pickup from the tech when he puts it in.
I personally got tired of putting LP's on and got a fass. this is after my first vp replacement.
get a ****ing gauge on that thing. STAT!. no reason not to, you can hook it up yourself in a matter of an hour. its at least a grand the for the VP and then putting it on is a PITA. Took me better part of a day (would be WAY faster now that I've done it).

wizzo · Nov 13, 2008

i'd definately get a inline lift pump on that truck if you keep it and a gauge or BD makes a warning light that comes on if it drops below 5 psi, they are not to pricey and easy to install. i would look into something other than fass, i've taken off almost every fass system i've installed and they didn't offer any tech help or let us send them in to get looked at. air dog? looks to make a nice one, might be worth checking out or just run a carter black and wire it up yourself. i think fass has changed owners or management or something so they may be better to work with now though.

i got my '01 about a year ago and gave 12,500 for it so i can definately understand you not wanting to take that kind of hit.

J.A.B · Nov 13, 2008

Yeah I gave high dollar for the truck just becuase I wanted it that bad I always liked those trucks and it only had 60K on it. And hell fuel was under $2.00 a gallon.

blacksheep10 · Nov 14, 2008

wizzo said:
i'd definately get a inline lift pump on that truck if you keep it and a gauge or BD makes a warning light that comes on if it drops below 5 psi, they are not to pricey and easy to install. i would look into something other than fass, i've taken off almost every fass system i've installed and they didn't offer any tech help or let us send them in to get looked at. air dog? looks to make a nice one, might be worth checking out or just run a carter black and wire it up yourself. i think fass has changed owners or management or something so they may be better to work with now though.

i got my '01 about a year ago and gave 12,500 for it so i can definately understand you not wanting to take that kind of hit.

I actually had good luck with my fass. I put it on in 05 and never had problems. stopped driving her in Jan.