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Message: <blockquote data-quote="t1h5ta3" data-source="post: 1548887" data-attributes="member: 16823">i hear you. i stoped by tims today and talked to them. they have prety much talked me out of a fat bike. they said they sold a few, then not long after almost all of them got traded in. he also confirmed some things i had in the back of my head about the mongoose's . he said they actualy like it when people buy them, most people wind up spending more in the long run on maintanace and upgrades than say, buying a kona in the first place.so, now it looks like ill be looking for some thing more along the lines of a 29" kona, not wooried about fancy suspension,</blockquote>