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For buggy guys what's your coilover spring rates?

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I am trying to put together a buggy and have no access to scales. It's your typical buggy with chevy 350 and dana 60 with 44" TSLs. I need coilover spring rates for the front. What are you using and are you happy with it?
 
Most ppl are going to want to see pictures?
What kind of chassis?
What material is it made of?
What drivetrain?
What axles?
General information like that. If you can find a dirt car shop they can weigh it and give you your corner weights
 
Chassis is booty fab by a scammer that went out of business in Winchester KY.

It's mostly 1.5 DOM with the main rails 1 5/8 DOM .120 wall

Chevy 350, Turbo 350, klune-V, Dana 300, Dana 60 front and rear

No dirt car shops that I know of.

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You're really just interested in your sprung corner weights. If you have any springs of known rate, you can measure how far they squish with the truck sitting on them. From that you can calculate your corner weight and go from there.
For example, if you have a 250#/in spring that's 16" long with no weight on it, and it squishes to 12" (compressed 4") with the weight of the truck, that means you have 1000 lbs on that corner.
(250# / in) x (4 in) = 1000#
 
Re: Re: For buggy guys what's your coilover spring rates?

I was looking for the other thread on weighing with jacks, but this would work too.
I saw this on northern site and for the money I think I'm going to try it.
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I know it's not super high quality or weight, but would work for corners.

Thoughts?
 
SB406 said:
You're really just interested in your sprung corner weights. If you have any springs of known rate, you can measure how far they squish with the truck sitting on them. From that you can calculate your corner weight and go from there.
For example, if you have a 250#/in spring that's 16" long with no weight on it, and it squishes to 12" (compressed 4") with the weight of the truck, that means you have 1000 lbs on that corner.
(250# / in) x (4 in) = 1000#



I could kind of see this idea working if he didn't have a dual rate set up and wasn't really trying to get an accurate number. The spring rate would be 125 in your example if it was meant for duals
 
You don't even really need corner weights. These things are not circle track cars.
Front and rear sprung and unsprung weights is all I use to calculate. Matched with some measurements and angles.
 
Dynamite Design said:
I could kind of see this idea working if he didn't have a dual rate set up and wasn't really trying to get an accurate number. The spring rate would be 125 in your example if it was meant for duals
Dual rate or not it will still work. Just pay attention to where you're measuring and the rate, whether it be a single spring or a combined rate.
 
Yeah, I said I could see it working. Just wanted to make sure he knew what the deal was with the springs.
 
With that hanging scale. Could you use a pulley on the rig and a solid anchor above then just double the line going up then double the reading as to not max out the cheap scale. ?
 
If you remove your springs, run the dual rate slider stop all the way down. Then install just one spring on the bottom, the dual rate slider will hit the stop with the weight of the rig on it. Then you can measure the spring length and figure you front corner weights from there.
This will work if you know the rate of the springs you have. They should be marked a couple coils down from the end of the spring. Something like this 2.0-16-200 that =2" I.D.-16" long-200lb rate.
 
I think I ran into you in harlan a couple years back right after you picked it up from the fabricator. I remember you saying this was supposed to\ be a KOH spec ready rig but it wasn't. I was wondering of you had any luck getting like you wanted? how is the ride now and what have ya done to it? I just remember that it was bottoming out on every bump and rode pretty rough.
 
Yep that was me. There are so many problems it would probably be best to scrap it and start over, lol. Fortunately he went out of business so won't do the same to anyone else.
 
5,000# on a calibrated truck scale.
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Fox 2.0 emulsion: Fr-200/250. Rr-175/200

Valving is your friend.

Before I fixed the valving it would blow the airbumps right through the can. After valving, a three day trip to Hale Mtn and you could see the travel line 1/2" from the head of the airbump.
 

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