Guess I stepped on some toes.

John Galbreath Jr. · Feb 10, 2015

Just as he said, I did not reply. Most stuff here does not bother me, but this one does. Please keep this on Easyline.

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plow boy said:
thanks again john g for trying to start drauma between builders, this may be funny to you but u are messing with these guys livings, I think a administrader should have more class than feeding on a bad situation just like last time I hit that guy, you almost cost me big dollars, please leave me out of your comments in the future, my family don't need the harassment. no need to reply just forget I exist. thanks

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Guess this is the post he is referring to.

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JohnG said:
I have pretty much stayed out of this debate. But .........

Taking a new rig without plenty of shakedown time is a problem. Seems everyone gets them built just barely enough time to get them in powder. Fast assembly and on the trailer. This was the problem WOD had this year. I do not know what the time schedule was, but if BOTH rigs had been delivered at least 4 months ago. Then there would have been plenty of time for any new build issues. This was not done, and both Ployboy 1 and 2 were failures.

Now, lets look at the EOR camp. Purchased months ago, shook down and raced a few times. Then it was taken to EOR for race prep. Even during that they found broken gear set they did not know about.

So, to me both shops are very good, sure I am partial to Adam due to him building me two rigs. But have also been friends with Jimmy and used him as a trail leader several times. Is one shop better than the other. I have no clue.

Did one shop have a better time schedule, better shakedown time, more driver and co-driver seat time. Made modifications to fit those people better, sure. And that team won, if there was a Murfreesboro shop shootout.

Congratulations to Jimmy, Timmy and Cole. Your planning and efforts paid off.

jrhall · Feb 10, 2015

Eh **** him

TacomaJD · Feb 10, 2015

**** him, he's a ****. That walk around video he did of the new pb buggy out in the desert on the facebook was really the first time I've heard him talk. Far as I can tell he's an arrogant ****. Uh yeah I got this **** and it's badass cuz it's the only one like it, and ain't but 2 more people got this, and uh yea we here to ride on some sand.

I have made the exact same comment about finishing something with a lack of shadedown run time, and no wonder it fawked up...I expected nothing more before they ever loaded that **** up and headed west. I wish he'd have messaged me that ****, I'd told him where he could stick his big gay green tractor buggies and them gayass flatbiller yeller sunglasses he wears.

:****:

matlock · Feb 10, 2015

I say nothing.....

following the rule..if you can't say something nice

wont work · Feb 10, 2015

I have not said anything on any of the Hammer threads or builds because it looks like there are 100 people looking to jab you with a knife if you speak the truth. Not only is there people calling out others but now we got builders calling out builders that I believe are both very good at what they do but both are human and make mistakes. What you said about no prep time is 100% truth. It has been proven in all sports that you must practice and test to win and all builders have been guilty of not doing it. It is like a high school girls bathroom drama match on hardline and most of the folks need to grow up and stop sucking their moms tit.

Cole · Feb 10, 2015

wont work said:
I have not said anything on any of the Hammer threads or builds because it looks like there are 100 people looking to jab you with a knife if you speak the truth.

Exactly, this is why I haven't posted anything about my race experience, I figure if someone wants to know they can ask me at a ride and I will be more than happy to give them my run down of how the week went.

Also I don't think people understand how tough that race is, the 3rd lap of that race was 87.9 miles and we crawled some of the biggest rocks I have ever done in a buggy, Thank God TC can drive.

TacomaJD · Feb 10, 2015

I would like to know the story behind where he mentions in that pm about him hitting that guy :dunno:

bigsilly · Feb 10, 2015

All the money in the world cannot buy talent. I have never met this guy but from what I have heard and seen of him he is just a guy with a large walet and that's where it ends.

I know what it's like to finish a car and load it up to go west with no test time, have done it more than once. The threads are full of comments by people that do not have a clue what it takes to do this. Speaking from firsthand experience it is hard to do, not impossible though. Would I do it again, not a chance. But look for me to be back with a team that has been there and knows what it takes. We are going for more than the "experience".

If john Deere guy is serious he needs a serious rig and race everything he can to understand what it takes to do it. I do not think he has a clue.

John pay no attention to his comments, you said nothing wrong. I echo JR.

Rich · Feb 11, 2015

Ritchie Keith is an arrogant **** with money. His voice is unnaturally high pitched (for a man). The only attribute he has is his relationship with Bobby Tanner. The only reason I haven't flamed him is Ricky is milking the cow. I think that's about over. :indianajones:

CHASMAN9 · Feb 11, 2015

Here's how I see it from behind my keyboard.
Richie IS a great guy and is probably extremely annoyed and sensitive of the fact that all the money and time he has put into both of these rigs have not paid off for him. I can see that. He has now asked two of the best builders in the game to get him on the podium and have fallen short of his dream due to not having the proper time for testing and tuning. On the other hand Cole and Timmy used a PROVEN chassis and stuck with what has PROVEN to work for others who have entered the race and did a ****ING FANTASTIC JOB. Congratulations guys. Richie is trying to make something original work and even with the best parts available, continuous on a downward fall and this year was the epitome of failure with two Badass rigs. There is nothing wrong with trying to be different but sometimes recreating the wheel has it's downfalls. I know Richie will stick with it and make it what he wants it to be in the long run and I will be there to shake his hand and congratulate him.

I personally don't think John went after Richie to start a war of builders. KEY words "This was not done, and both Ployboy 1 and 2 were failures" might have been a bit harsh but were true on all accounts. Will they be killer rigs when they have R&D time, HELL YES.

Cole, you and Timmy used a tried and true chassis and parts list and could have broken anything at anytime, anywhere, but with proper preparation it paid off greatly. That just shows me that you guys drove a smart race on one the harshest race environments being ran today. Awesome job and I hope you guys keep doing what you love and do good. :driving:

blacksheep10 · Feb 11, 2015

he needs to grow some skin. I don't feel you took a shot at a builder, it sounded like you were downing WOD for the first part, but came back and said you were partial to WOD.
He needs to thicken up.

CheapJ7 · Feb 11, 2015

The only 2 facts I know about R Keith are. 1. He has super deep pockets 2. He needs to use that money to hire a driver. I've only been around him a time or two, one being a hill climb at hawk pride a few years ago. Seemed like an arrogant **** to me then, but I couldn't be for sure on that.

InDaShop · Feb 11, 2015

After the lawsuit BS he tried to pull on Penner after snapping his collarbone, I think he needs brought down a notch. Maybe that happened at KOH, maybe not.

I'm ecstatic that Woodlee, and Penner have been able to grow their businesses, and put food on the table for themselves and their employees because of that guy. But as for him alone, **** 'em.

CHASMAN9 · Feb 11, 2015

InDaShop said:
After the lawsuit BS he tried to pull on Penner after snapping his collarbone, I think he needs brought down a notch. Maybe that happened at KOH, maybe not.

I'm ecstatic that Woodlee, and Penner have been able to grow their businesses, and put food on the table for themselves and their employees because of that guy. But as for him alone, **** 'em.

I did not know about this. :****: Are you talking about the loop de loop on Cable hill when he broke his collar bone or did something happen at KOH?

InDaShop · Feb 11, 2015

CHASMAN9 said:
I did not know about this. :****: Are you talking about the loop de loop on Cable hill when he broke his collar bone or did something happen at KOH?

on cable where a belt tab let loose. only so much beating can anything take.

TacomaJD · Feb 11, 2015

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Jeezus if his fat little butterball ass tried or succeeded in sueing Jimmy over a broken seat belt tab, he's def **** in my book.

wont work · Feb 11, 2015

I had heard that but didn't know it was true. That's just crazy he felt like his rig and all is unbreakable. He has beat on that thing and that wreck was bad.

It's been said in a few ways but you can't run a race like KOH like it is a bounty hill. You have to drive and save your rig till the end and not focus on beating Campbell up one ledge but for the entire race.