HH210 feed problems

[mcbadwsih]

I have a new hobart handler 210 with just over 2lbs of .030 solild wire through it. The problem is unless I have the wip totally straight it wont feed. It will feed if I cut the wire at the spool and "re load" up until it get to the last inch or so of coming out of the gun. I have verified that the roller is in the correct way for .030, and the spool tension is just barely tight enough for it not to bird nest. I have tried setting the feed tension every way possible and still the same outcome. I have also pulled the liner out and inspected and cleaned it with compressed air no kinks and looks good. I know alot of you use welders hoping you can help.

Tony

 

[boardbysled]

i will just ask since ya did not state..but is the tip for .30 wire?

 

[mcbadwsih]

Sure is thats the first thing I checked. It wont feed with or without the tip.

 

[tomsbrokeagain]

Sounds like you have a bad liner.

I would replace with a .035 or .045 liner, will make your wire feed easier.:awesomework:

I run .035 liner for my .023 wire and it works great.

They sell these little wire cleaners that you thread your wire through, it sits before your drive rolls and will help keep liner clean.

 

[chainsaw]

Also loosen one end of the liner and make sure it doesnt have a twist in it. You can clean out the liner buy using compressed air between spools of wire. Also if you get a spot where the wire isnt pushing and the feed wheels are rolling you will create a flat spot in the wire which will get to you tip and get stuck, if it sticks pull the wire out untill you get the flat spot out or you will just have a persiting problem. Make sure you dont have to much tension on the wire feed rollers.

 

[mcbadwsih]

Ok ill give a new liner a try, thanks for your guy's help.:awesomework:

 

[tomsbrokeagain]

Also check the drive roll alignment. If you said earlier you can get a birds nest the liner is too far away or not aligned with the drive rolls.

.030 shouldn't birds nest, it should slip before that.

 

[mcbadwsih]

It bird nested because I backed all the tension off on the spool. I don't think my liner is adjustable.

 

[MarcW]

It bird nested because I backed all the tension off on the spool. I don't think my liner is adjustable.

there is adjustable tension on the drive rollers that push the wire into the liner, and adjustable tension on the spool to prevent the wire from unspooling when you stop feeding wire.

 

[mcbadwsih]

there is adjustable tension on the drive rollers that push the wire into the liner, and adjustable tension on the spool to prevent the wire from unspooling when you stop feeding wire.

Yeah it bird nested because I backed the adjuster way off to see if that helped feeding the wire which it didn't. I also tried tightening the feed tension, that didin't help either.

 

[darius]

I fight the same thing with my welder, I have a miller 250 with a Tweco 350 amp gun and it's a fine process dialing in wire tension so you don't make a bird's nest after the drive rolls. I just replaced my liner and put on a wire wiper the other day..... it's a little better, but still sticks from time to time

 

[mcbadwsih]

Well I called hobart and they say its sticking because they got a bad batch of liners that arent long enough and the wire is "kinking" when it hits the defuser (sp).

 

[johnboy1]

I fight the same thing with my welder, I have a miller 250 with a Tweco 350 amp gun and it's a fine process dialing in wire tension so you don't make a bird's nest after the drive rolls. I just replaced my liner and put on a wire wiper the other day..... it's a little better, but still sticks from time to time

:eeek: i run a miller 250 and a miller 251 at my work and i always have had issues with the tweeco setups. they basically have to be perfectly straight have gentle bends to keep the wire from sticking in the liner.

i would much rather have a Tregaskiss setup but i cant seem to get my boss and the day shift welder to agree with spending that much money.