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I have thought alot about how I must have worded my question incorrectly? I would like to try to compete, but I know that the tire I am running will not do so. So in order to make me or the Buggy look like it is competitive I priced tires..... I soon found out that there is a difference in pricing. Competitive pricing and Hobby pricing, Didnt wanna say I was cheaping out! I have spent ALOT of money to enjoy this Hobby. I have to agree most people in any sport make money, I would say not many in this HOBBY has even broke even yet?? I do realize that some of the BS you take after asking a question is answered by guys that drag someone else's winch cable, or have never even been wheeling in anything short of there Moms new Wrangler Sahara. But it did open quite the Topic.