JOEL!!!!!!BIGSILLY!!!!!BUGGY!!!!!

InDaShop · Jan 25, 2008

I know you're looking, and $15k isn't too bad for a driver.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650310
Motor: Rebuilt Chevy small block 4 bolt main 350 with heads, intake and harness/ computer from a 98 Chevy truck. The harness was reworked by Cambell Enterprise. New Comp cam with lifters, springs, rods, and seats. Block hugger headers, with custom Magnaflow exhaust. The motor only has my be 10 hours on it. Serpentine kit from Summit Racing.

Tranny: TH 350 just rebuilt with new performance (Street/Strip) built. Art Carr manual reverse pattern valve body, with Art Carr gate sifter. 2400 stall torque converter with a B&M cooler/w fan.

T-Case: StAK 2 speed with twin sticks, 32 spline outputs, and 5.44 to 1 low. 1350 yokes throughout.

Front End: 78 Ford HP Dana 60, kingpin, new brakes, new bearings, new seals, PSC high steer arms, welded with 4.10s

Rear End: 80 Corporate 14 bolt, with new disk brakes, seals, and bearings. Welded with 4.10s. Blue torch truss

Wheels/ Tires: 42x17 Irok's on 17x9 beadlocks with aluminum rings.

Suspension: Fox Air shocks in all four corners, 14's in front, 16's in the rear. Double triangulated four links front and rear with 3/4 in Hiem joints.

Steering: PSC double ended ram with PSC orbital.

Seats: PRP suspension seats with 5 point harnesses.

Fuel cell: 10 gallon Summit racing aluminum cell.

Misc: Auto meter gages, rear radiator, UHMP skid plates,

108" WB

Bones · Jan 25, 2008

Very nice rig and a great price

InDaShop · Jan 25, 2008

And then this one showed up for $10K more. Looks a bit beat and you could probably get it down a couple K, but still a chunk of change.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651008
Shaffer's Offroad Diablo Chassis, DOM
2002 Chevy 4.3L V6, approx 20k miles
T400 Trans / Manual Shift / Shift Kit, B&M shifter
Atlas II 5.0 T-case
Front & Rear Steer Ford Dana 60's / High Pinion / Spools / 4:10 gears
Superior Axles, 35 spline axles/stubs, Warn Drive Flanges
CTM Joints
Walker Evans bead lock wheels
39" Red Label Krawlers
8 gallon fuel cell
Fox 14" air shocks
RCI 5 pt harnesses
Race Craft seats
PCI high flow Chevy pump w/full hydro steering
Land Cruiser Hood

P · Jan 25, 2008

I like that cruiser buggy... its sessay and yea its been WHEELED dammit. But thats what they are made for laughing

wngrog · Jan 25, 2008

The first one is a super deal, I agree. NICE rig, there must be a catch there....

The second one is the Diablo I was talking about a year ago that had such poor welds that they had to re-weld the entire chassis.

I have seen it since and it was done nicely. That buggy fully gets it, no doubt. You can see it lots on the BTG films. It works.

DavidsCJ7 · Jan 25, 2008

I like both of them but the 15g buggy seems underpriced. He may just need to move it quick. dunno

BamaTJ · Jan 25, 2008

That second rig is my favorite BTG rig. I love watching it on the videos. Probably a little more that it is worth, but still badass.

InDaShop · Jan 25, 2008

That second buggy is nice. I dont think its worth the 25k, but its nice.

bigsilly · Jan 25, 2008

The first one is scary because of the price, unless he just had a really bad situation come up and he needs to unload it super quick. dunno

I do like the second one, but it is a bit high for the abuse it has seen.

I may have something cooking, we will see.

Woodlee · Jan 25, 2008

I have a question just to pick every ones minds about?

I have seen on quite a few web sites that people don't like vehicles that have been abused. A lot of people say they are not worth the money that the same buggy that had not been abused is worth.

I say that a buggy that is about a year old is at its prime. It has been tried out and all of the little bugs have usually been fixed by then. If it is being sold because it is falling apart then scratch that opinion but if the vehicle is being sold for other reasons and still looks like was not run though a meat grinder then I say a year old buggy is worth more than a brand new rig. I would want to buy one that has been tested and ran hard that way if there were issues then they were probably fixed.

bigsilly · Jan 25, 2008

To me it is about wear and tear on the parts. We all know parts get fatigued over time. I had an output break on my transfer case and I did not have any bind on it, it was just a stressed part that let go at that time. In my opinion a lot of the parts failures we see are due to prior abuse. I do agree with Adam to an extent that a rig that has been run a while should have the bugs worked out of it, but there a lot out there that have just been beat on that if the owners are not doing the proper maintenance on will be falling apart.

InDaShop · Jan 26, 2008

I think aq lot has to do with WHO's buggy it is. Example the Tim Florian Twisted Buggy for sale right now. Tim flogged that thing like a $2 whore, and would put it away wet and broke, and have someone else fix it. A buggy like that I see getting discounted. Scott from Rockstomper's rig, he did 3 backflips with it at WERock Grand National two years ago, and thats how he always drives, equals discount, but Scott does do his own maintenance.

What I'm saying is a rig is made to flog, but its the way of the flogging and then what do you do with it afterwards. Preventative maintence, and routine inspects bumps a buggy up. A buggy that lives its life strapped to the trailer between runs, and never gets looked at or maintained but totally flogged on, equals discount.

wngrog · Jan 26, 2008

Woodlee said:
I have a question just to pick every ones minds about?

I have seen on quite a few web sites that people don't like vehicles that have been abused. A lot of people say they are not worth the money that the same buggy that had not been abused is worth.

I say that a buggy that is about a year old is at its prime. It has been tried out and all of the little bugs have usually been fixed by then. If it is being sold because it is falling apart then scratch that opinion but if the vehicle is being sold for other reasons and still looks like was not run though a meat grinder then I say a year old buggy is worth more than a brand new rig. I would want to buy one that has been tested and ran hard that way if there were issues then they were probably fixed.

Very good point. I bought a rig from a guy that beat the piss out of it for 8 months every weekend at the Hammers. That equals about 3yrs of normal wheeling (or a month with Cole)

, but the beauty of it was that all of the kinks were worked out. I never had to tighten a bolt on that rig. I brike some **** that was fatigued like Joel was saying, but all in all, the above statement rang true on it for sure.