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When I had 5.86s I could break them on command. Since going to 4.56 I have not broken a set. I split a carrier in half and chewed the gears up but it was due to the carrier breaking. Have your carrier turned down so that it's true all the way around and have somebody that knows what they are doing set them up. I run stickies but don't have stupid power. I have a 14bolt sitting in the back yard but until I start going through more than one set a year I am not building it. I going on 3 years so far I haven't wanted to build the 14