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Toddy

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Talked to Sam last night and he didnt know about the ball valve rules for the fuel cell. So everyone go over the rules good and make sure you have your **** strait. I would suck balls to get out there and not pass tech.

Toddy
 
7.12.7: Ball valves must be installed on all fuel lines including vent lines. Ball valves must be
mounted under the vehicle.


On ALL lines. They said the mounting under the vehicle part is not in play but you do have to have ball valves in the pressure, return and vent lines on the fuel system. One of those where am I gonna find ball valves in the middle of the desert rules.

They said incase a line breaks you will be able to shut it off which ever line that me be.

Toddy
 
I am sure that has to do with the part about not taking any chances on spilling any fluids on the ground due to permit issues.
 
I have a handle you turn to stop flow in the fuel line. My vent has a ball valve. The rules are very picky, John helped me a bunch with my list
 
Where is one list of rules for the race? I keep finding parts and then I will read some and they will mention later that "well this is for W.E. Rock and and you dont need it for KOH but its recomended". I figure they will be a little flexable but im not trying to show up assuming that.
 
Matt O. said:
I have a handle you turn to stop flow in the fuel line. My vent has a ball valve. The rules are very picky, John helped me a bunch with my list

It's more than the vent. It's a W.E. Rock rule and a high speed (KOH) rule. Danny from Wombat got busted on it last year at the first W.E. Rock. I pm'd Big Rich about ball valves in all the lines and asking about other things as well. He said we can't run unless there is a ball valve on every fuel line. There is an argument on Pirates about it. It doesn't matter if it's stupid or not...it's a rule.

They used to let things slide like that. But, in mid 07 competitors really started complaining about if you make a rule, then stick by it. So, from then on into 08 they were jacking people. So, competitors had to run around and throw random crap on on tech day if they didn't have it. I don't see them slacking on a rule that says ball valves must be on each fuel line.

Edit...just found a statement from Rich on February 5th. I think BS told him his thoughts on ball valves. Here is his reply.

"I understand your outlook, but you will be asked to run ball valves on All fuel lines at the race."

from this thread.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747395&page=2

I want all of us from the southeast to do awesome and represent our area well. :dblthumb: I know Rich and how they are on rules and I'm telling you guys, they won't let a misinterpretation slide because your way is just as safe or safer. Dumb sounding...but it's the truth. If you do something that is questionable, but is not a rule...that is where you being smart comes into play and you outsmarted the rules. But, you can't go around printed words with them.

Edit one more time. I called Big Rich. He said he wanted me to say this. "You will be working on your vehicle installing ball valves on each fuel line if you do not have them on it. No other system is acceptable unless you have special permission granted from Big or Lil Rich. This permission will be in e-mail form and you should have that printed off when you show up for tech."

He also stated this will be the longest tech ever because they are going to be very strict word for word on everything. We are going to have to make a cover for our radiator hoses after I read the rules again. Yay.
 
I don't have the time or patience to go over their interpretations. Big Rich has told me over email that several of my things are fine and so forth. Acted like it was no big deal. I will get there and let him look at my **** and give me answers on stuff I may be unclear about. Oh well, this side of it kinda blows
 
Make a rule and stick by it... laughing1 **** XRRA had a rule last year about "open ended lug nutz " I went and bought 32 damn open ended lug nutz just to get out there and see all sorts of people with blingy wheels and closed off nuts. laughing1

Its all part of the deal though , play by the rule's and avoid the drama . :dblthumb:
 
I guess I am not in compliance with the ball valves, since my feed line has a hand turn control valve to shut off flow. No ball valve. That means draining all the fuel and would suck
 
Matt O. said:
I don't have the time or patience to go over their interpretations. Big Rich has told me over email that several of my things are fine and so forth. Acted like it was no big deal. I will get there and let him look at my **** and give me answers on stuff I may be unclear about. Oh well, this side of it kinda blows

Just trying to help man. booyang If he said something in an e-mail I'd print that out where it says you are cool and show it to him. I'm just going by the words "all fuel lines must have ball valves". When I asked about return line, he said "even the return line, no ifs, and or buts unless you have special permission. blah blah blah..."



Yeah P, there is some sideline rules to let people by sometimes. LOL. The side rule to the lugnut rule is you have to have cut the cap off on at least one lugnut on each wheel to show the thread engagement.
 
Oh I am not complaining Droop, thanks for the heads up. It is just funny how one week it is all laid back and yeah sure that is no problem. Then the next it is we are going to be strict as hell and bring printed emails where we told you this was ok. Be one way or the other, not both!
 
laughing1 No if's , and's or buts... UNLESSS.....

Not flipping you **** Droop, that just strikes me as funny and the norm. Its like that in all motorsports not anything to get hung up on Matt, the "handle valve" you are referring to should actually be above and beyond the ball valve rule but who knows. I have or we can get something from Gdale performance, not a big deal at all.
 
Droopy said:
Yeah P, there is some sideline rules to let people by sometimes. LOL. The side rule to the lugnut rule is you have to have cut the cap off on at least one lugnut on each wheel to show the thread engagement.

I was told you can just remove one lug nut on each wheel...
 
Yeah like type of anti-freeze. I run pure water but damn it is hard to get every drop of the green **** out of your motor. Mine still has some in it and I am not fawking with it until they make me. I guess we can bring a few ball valves just in case.

I just read and the ball valves are the manual shutoff type with a handle. P if you have two of em let's bring em. A check valve is the little ball that uses gravity to shut off the flow. They want the manual type ball valves. Install on the vent is cake, the return should also be ok depending on where that line comes into my tank
 
What their asking for is MANUAL SHUT OFF VALVES ( The kind you turn with your hand) in all fuel lines.If you passed in XRRA all you need to do is put a MANUAL BALL VALVE in your return.The only question now is how close to the fuel tank does it need to be.
 
The antifreeze thing is a joke. We bought the non-ethylene glycol kind and it was still green! How can they tell what kind it is?
 
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