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I am always too busy to see the forest for the trees.....but........the gasoline prices are about the cause lots a bad things. Small increases or decreases don't upset the world economy, huge swings mess up everything. Anyone want to weigh in before I toss my thoughts out there?
 
Crude oil below 75 bucks hurts Russia. The few people that control the commodities took a short position then started making the market drop thus making them tons of money when they buy new contracts in the near future all while screwing Putin. It was the perfect time to do it because the value of the dollar is rising so the credit for price drop is going to go to the prez for making our economy stronger.
 
Its a damn shame that the cuts will be in the worker bees... Because we all know they didn't receive raises the last half decade... But the C-level folks sure did. Bet they don't take cuts during this downturn...
 
There are about 1000 people who control all the significant money in the world. Their helps help make me look like a pauper. They make the markets and economies do what they want when they want and don't care who it affects.
 
The Saudis are not willing to lose market share and are trying to push others into shutting down or going under. Almost everyone that produces oil is online.China isn't growing as much right now, the US of A is pretty stagnant overall. I feel if it drops below $50 a barrel, longterm worldwide recession will follow. I hate saying that because I am not a doom and gloom guy.
 
I haven't really been consciously preparing for it... but I suppose my lifestyle has migrated in to a preparedness of "come what may" and be as nimble as possible... Bring on the GLOOM!
 
I think this is all about killing the people out there fracking and the others wanting the North American pipeline. That's my .02. Just trying to convince americ " has is cheap as ****.. Why yall wanna waste time with other stuff?" Then it's gonna go back up. It WILL NOT stay this low. Too many outsiders depend on us paying top dollar!!
 
wannabe said:
I think this is all about killing the people out there fracking and the others wanting the North American pipeline. That's my .02. Just trying to convince americ " has is cheap as ****.. Why yall wanna waste time with other stuff?" Then it's gonna go back up. It WILL NOT stay this low. Too many outsiders depend on us paying top dollar!!

Agreed. I am hoping it doesn't jump to $5 or so late next year. Its locked in for another few months and we will have a few more months of cheap gas. I hope it stays that way, but everything points towards a big shift.
 
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I'm quite a bit younger, so don't have near the life experience of some of you guys, but from the research I've done on this topic the supply of oil has went way up lately therefore decreasing the price. I read that the Saudis are able to get there oil out of the ground for about $6 a barrel. So they are still making a killing, the us producing so much of our own oil which is crippling opac and it's power, there is hundreds of years of oil available through these new processes, and all of the analysts are saying the gas prices are going to remain low for years to come. On a personal level I think this is great, and could pump a lot of money into our economy that people aren't spending on gas. Marathon petroleum sent out an email to there employees the other day saying they were making more money than ever, because people are buying more gas. On a worldwide level I will be the first to admit I have no clue how this all affects each other. I do know that with the ruble being worthless and putin being pushed into a corner that it worries me that he will take radical actions. I have always heard that a man with nothing to lose is a very dangerous thing.
 
I'm kinda hoping for a big crash. Once the moocher class realizes their bank account still says $1.02 on the second of the month, they will riot and most will die. This country needs a hard crash and reset. Too screwed up to fix. Thanks, two party system.
 
On a related note. I remember the FIRST time I paid more than $2/gallon was literally on a trip to Tellico. Had to fill up and I was crushed. Little did I know it would be, what, 7 years before I could pump below that mark again....
 
5BrothersFabrication said:
I'm kinda hoping for a big crash. Once the moocher class realizes their bank account still says $1.02 on the second of the month, they will riot and most will die. This country needs a hard crash and reset. Too screwed up to fix. Thanks, two party system.

last couple of times this country tried resetting... my team lost.
 
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09zkrankin said:
I'm quite a bit younger, so don't have near the life experience of some of you guys, but from the research I've done on this topic the supply of oil has went way up lately therefore decreasing the price. I read that the Saudis are able to get there oil out of the ground for about $6 a barrel. So they are still making a killing, the us producing so much of our own oil which is crippling opac and it's power, there is hundreds of years of oil available through these new processes, and all of the analysts are saying the gas prices are going to remain low for years to come. On a personal level I think this is great, and could pump a lot of money into our economy that people aren't spending on gas. Marathon petroleum sent out an email to there employees the other day saying they were making more money than ever, because people are buying more gas. On a worldwide level I will be the first to admit I have no clue how this all affects each other. I do know that with the ruble being worthless and putin being pushed into a corner that it worries me that he will take radical actions. I have always heard that a man with nothing to lose is a very dangerous thing.

42 of our states see a small gain, but 8 rely on barrel prices staying over $60 and will see a drastic down then. My brother in law is a super for huge storage tanks in the US. Where are they built? New places that require holding facililities? From Sand, in shale, etc. When this dries up, a lot of food go under, lose jobs and it starts affecting others. Like I said...I hope for no doom and gloom, but any big swings, will equal out in the short/long term. Either way they equal out.
 
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That makes sense, but on the other hand, I'm assuming the $60 figure is where they feel they are making enough money, I may be wrong here, but if that is the case and theoretically they break even at $45 a barrell, if they were to have to sell for $55 a barrell, but are selling 3 times the oil then they should be making more money. This is all theoretical, I'm just trying to learn and understand the situation from both sides
 
I've read 2 articles on the topic, 1 said longterm global depression ahead, the other said good for the US, crippling for other countries, this will do nothing but strengthen our economy, I'm pulling for the latter :drinkers:
 
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09zkrankin said:
That makes sense, but on the other hand, I'm assuming the $60 figure is where they feel they are making enough money, I may be wrong here, but if that is the case and theoretically they break even at $45 a barrell, if they were to have to sell for $55 a barrell, but are selling 3 times the oil then they should be making more money. This is all theoretical, I'm just trying to learn and understand the situation from both sides

Break even is $60 for the new technologies/drilling. Give or take. Some are closer to 70, a few places can handle 55 or so.

Didn't multiquote, but remember this. Global economy trumps local economy. We need to buy other peoples crap and they need to buy ours for things to be good in happyville USA. When any major country (Russia included) struggles, we all struggle.
 
I saw a report the other day that said the Saudis Break even point was $10 bucks a barrel, and that new technologies are at $60. I don't buy it. I think its all BS.
 
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dwa2469 said:
I saw a report the other day that said the Saudis Break even point was $10 bucks a barrel, and that new technologies are at $60. I don't buy it. I think its all BS.
I don't buy that either.

$60 may be what they need to pay all their employees triple time plus bonuses, and million dollar salarys + 200% salary bonuses for the corporate types.
 
Not to mention the "new technology" is uber dangerous. I'm not a tree hugger, far from it. I eat sell, eat, and grow genetically modified crops and spray them with some nasty stuff to kill weeds and bugs, but fracking and this new deep water drilling and other new techniques to get natural gas and oil are SCARY! I'm just not sure it is worth the risk
 

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