I have been waiting a while for this topic to come up and I'm very glad it did I have never wanted to start a thread about this because I'm not trying to bash other vendors , even though they bash me and outright lie in their ebay ad. I am excited to be able to tell you all the differences. If you go to their ad it states "this is not a forklift kit it has been specifically designed for the toyota 22r engine". I find that interesting as the name of the company is Nash Lift Well, it's the same equipment that is on my forklift, and is also the equipment that I use to power the 1.3 and 1.6 samuri motors. Take notice how close some of the wording is to my website.
Lets compare apples to apples. Their toyota kit to my samuir kit.
1. I upgrade the mixer and regulator to silicone internal parts.
2. I use a proper fitting, K&N air filter.
3. I use re-useable aeroquip style hose ends so you can make your hoses the length you want, they are using a crimp style fitting that you stand no chance of repiaring or changing
4. I supply a bulkhead fitting with a pressure relief device
5. That is the typical forklift adapter I see in the picture
6. no water "y"s
7. I provide a custom machined adapter and a new throttle body that cost me $$
I charge the same price but give more.
I used to design alt fuel vehicles for the govt. It was my job to come up with a system that would be mass produced and installed. We had 3 other companies we were in competition with. We were graded on emissions output, ease of maintainance, and most of all performance!
Now to compare it to my toyota kit.
1. Yes I do use a model E regulator, dang right! It is upgraded internally to silicone and can handle superchargers, turbos, and mixer upgrades if you decide to run a larger motor in the future. They offer this as an option for $50 more. If you all only knew how silly it is to say that. I couldn't even imagine running a 100 with a E reg. You'd need custom fittings.
2. They use a 100 mixer where I use a 200. Huge size difference! Very important. I designed my own adapter when I found out that all that was available was the adapter the "other guy" uses. It was for the 100/125 series mixers. Too small in my opinion. I know there will be those of you that say they have it and it works well. It may work but you wouldn't want to get in a race against one of my kits Speaking of races, 1st place in f toy last year, 6th at KOH (22r), and good placement at top truck challenge and many other events.
3. 11 ft of hose YOU cut and screw the ends on where you please
4. Fuel pump blockoff plate
5. Correct air filter and also a filter for the breather on the valve cover
6. A $7 gasket from toyota that makes it happen
7. ALL clamps, hoses, y's needed
8. Powdercoated and cad plated tank brackets. Go ahead and get 'em wet and muddy
9. I use a 90 degree fitting where it comes off the tank as well as for the bulkhead, small detail but it makes for a much less stressed hose. $15 each
10. 1 year warranty, just can't be rock damage
11. I like an electric solenoid, again my opinion but they have 1 moving part and have only ever seen 1 fail.
12. I use a propane filter
13. I offer full tech support. I am master certified and have worked on just about every car/truck on the planet. I can picture what you're working on. I also own an auto repair shop in the phoenix area.
Sorry for the long drawn out post. I know I'm forgetting things and wish I knew how to word all this better. I am appaled that they say it is the same kit for $200 less. That is mis leading and not anything I would ever do. It is not the same at all and I don't really know what to do about that. I just hope people will use their common sense when they see it is bieng sold by a forklift supply company, and just by looking at the engine pictures of both kits installed. Notice how mine is about the size of the old carb? I would say their kit is "cute" You'll also notice that L.C. engineering sells our kit as well. We sent them a kit, they dyno tested and flow checked the carb #s and called me back to tell me they were perfect and flowed more than stock. This is the reason so many people gain power on my kits. I don't promise that but it is the common result. If they will lie about one or more things, why would you purchase it? My goal is to provide you all with complete kits, done right , safely. I take it personally that everyone is satisfied and they get their hard earned money's worth. I know better than to cheapen up my kit so it costs less. I will not be responsible for somebody's ruined weekend.
I am open to discussion on this and am glad it got brought up.
One last thing, I choked up when reading some of the kind responses replied by some of you. Thank You!
