Racing Shifter

mark · Feb 25, 2009

I need a new shifter for my hack-job racing truck. The stock auto shifter works, but leaves a little to be desired.

What aftermarket shifter have people used and whats your opinions?

Thinking of something in a ratchet shifter, the tranny will be rebuilt with a reverse pattern shifter. This isn't a rock crawler, so going from gear to reverse in an instant isn't so important. Its not a drag car as well, so reverse lock-out is less important, and I don't want anything a big hassle to get into reverse (I want to be able to get to reverse easily, but I don't need to do it instantly).

Looking for something I can slam through the gears without really looking and know what gear its in. Durability (can take mud and hosings) and simplicity would be a good thing.

What have folks used and loved? and why!
What have folks used and hated? and why (just as important)
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racincowboy · Feb 25, 2009

We off road race and I personally have a 5 speed but all the guys that run auto matics are running an art carr shifter or fairbanks shifters that are both the same gated style shifter. Go look them up. I know you can go back and forth between 1st and 2nd with out a "gate change" and then from 2nd to drive without a gate change. We race in the mud and dirt and they seem to take hosings just fine and work smooth and are very simple in design.

bigiron · Feb 25, 2009

Right now I run a modified v-gate and I hate it..... I plan to go with a Art Carr shifter when i can afford to buy one. I have a full manual 727 with reverse valve body.

Boonie Buster · Feb 25, 2009

I have a B&M Mega truck shifter. I will have the truck at work tomorrow, if you want me to stop by after work and show you it i can, PLUS I will have your rim for you! :corn: (If tonight goes as planned:redneck

PM me if you want. :hi:

Pat · Feb 25, 2009

There is some good shifter tech here-

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/shifter/

but it seems more directed at rock crawling and may or may not be any help to you.

mark · Feb 25, 2009

racincowboy said:
We off road race and I personally have a 5 speed but all the guys that run auto matics are running an art carr shifter or fairbanks shifters that are both the same gated style shifter. Go look them up. I know you can go back and forth between 1st and 2nd with out a "gate change" and then from 2nd to drive without a gate change. We race in the mud and dirt and they seem to take hosings just fine and work smooth and are very simple in design.

Are they finding they prefer the gate style shifter over a ratchet? I know most crawelers are fining the gate style to be their prefered, with the art-carr (or equivlent, such as the cheeper Cheetae unit) getting best votes. Althou lots of folks have been doing the modified B&M Pro-Grip ala the BillaVista tech artical.

But thats crawling, where your not on the shifter all the time (I assume). With the short track stuff (tuff truck type) I see myself doing, I'd tend to think I'd be on and off the shifter all the time, popping between gears. Maybe I'm mistacen, seat time is limited so far, but before I was just letting the POS, slushy-stock tranny I have in there right now do the shifting for me. And the stock shifter didn't have very good control over it so I left it alone for the most part.

Boonie Buster said:
I have a B&M Mega truck shifter. I will have the truck at work tomorrow, if you want me to stop by after work and show you it i can, PLUS I will have your rim for you! :corn: (If tonight goes as planned:redneck PM me if you want. :hi:

Drop by, that would be good. And if I have the time I'll check out the shifter.
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mark · Feb 25, 2009

Pat said:
There is some good shifter tech here-

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/shifter/

but it seems more directed at rock crawling and may or may not be any help to you.

:haha:, I had that article open as I was typing the ^^ response :redneck:
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orangecrush1 · Feb 25, 2009

As mentioned above thay make the best (art car ) my 2cents and exp. says stay away from cable shifters or at least convert it to solid linkage with hyme's. Even a B&M will work like a hooker at midnight with this conversion.

pokey · Feb 25, 2009

Look inside most of the PNW4WDA race rigs and those with autos will most likly have a art carr shifter. Its simple in design but well made, few moving parts to get dirty and stick and its a fairly compact unit.

PORTER · Feb 25, 2009

Art Carr hands down is the best auto shifter on the market.

03 CON · Feb 25, 2009

Hey Mark, its hard to beat the Art Carrs...:awesomework:
You gunna come play with us some more this year?:cheer:

wheelinjp · Feb 25, 2009

another art carr vote here. I had a dual gate hurst shifter and it was always a pain in the ass. never looked back after the art carr, the cheetah is plastic I think, so go with the art carr.

Binder · Feb 25, 2009

mark said:
with the art-carr (or equivlent, such as the cheeper Cheetae unit) getting best votes.

Get the Turbo action cheetah if it's cheaper. TAC makes the shifter and Art Carr relables them.....

mark · Feb 26, 2009

OK, sounds like its the Art-Carr/Cheetah by a landslide. no one must like ratchets anymore. The modified Pro-Stick ala BillaVista/Redbull is intriguing as well, and may give me the shift motion I want depending on how I grind it. Something to look at, and at 1/2 the cost of an Art-Carr.

So who's got an Art-Carr sitting on a shelf right now they can "loan" me to try it out. I'll either give it back and buy a new one, or if its new enough (or I don't feel like taking it out) give the lender a new one (or $$).

03 CON said:
You gunna come play with us some more this year?:cheer:

I hope so. Time and $$'s still limited this year, but I hope to make a couple. I'm gunning for the CORE event first, putting together a "new" (all-be-it still cheap) truck together. The first one was parts I had laying around... this time around I'll atleast be a little more choosy

Hopping for the CORE event, and atleast one of the Ethal Tuff Trucks, then whatever else I can squeeze in. It there a (comprehensive) list of PNW and/or PNW type events out yet?
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pokey · Feb 26, 2009

As a member you should know this :fawkdancesmiley:

http://www.pnw4wda.org/competition/index.htm

2009 Competition schedule of events:

All events are subject to change. Please see PNW4WDA Calendar of Events for additional info.

Event Dates
Name or Hosting Club
Location

01/16/09 to 01/18/09
PNW Barrel Racing
Tacoma Dome

05/02/09 to 05/03/09
Webfooters Play Day
Straddleline ORV Park

05/09/09
WOHVA Expo/DNR Safety Summit
Straddleline ORV Park

05/23/09 to 05/25/09
Moonshiners Play Day
Horn Rapids ORV park

06/13/09 to 06/14/09
Ruff Country 4x4s
Lookingglass, OR

07/04/09 to 07/05/09
4 at a Time Play Day
Ethel

07/18/09 to 07/19/09
Outdoor 4x4s Play Day
Ethel

07/25/09 to 07/26/09
Mud Daubers Play Day
Chehalis Fairgrounds

08/21/09 to 08/23/09
PNW Summer Convention
Straddleline ORV Park

09/05/09 to 09/06/09
Summers End Play Day
Ethel

09/26/09 to 09/27/09
Outdoor 4x4s Fun Days
Ethel

mark · Feb 26, 2009

pokey said:
As a member you should know this :fawkdancesmiley:

http://www.pnw4wda.org/competition/index.htm

yah, yah.... I was being lazy and hadn't checked yet :flipoff:

Thanks Jim
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benw1 · Feb 27, 2009

mark said:
So who's got an Art-Carr sitting on a shelf right now they can "loan" me to try it out. I'll either give it back and buy a new one, or if its new enough (or I don't feel like taking it out) give the lender a new one (or $$).

Just buy this cheap one. http://www.timbercrawler.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=37897