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they are probably not true ARP has anyone (including myself, i have the magnum ARP from TG) seen the ARP stamp on the box or any parts we have bought, claiming to be ARP... my guess is no..... hell i had napa tell me that the knuckel studs they sell are grade 8 and just as strong as ARP, they said,  "that the A in ARP was for the Grade 8" ......... i laughed .....then bought the magnums from TG


CHOPSHOP i am not arguing or saying they are not the same but don't judge a book by its cover..... looks dont equel tensil strength


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