Struts

Cole · Mar 22, 2008

So I have been seeing more and more Struts popping up on buggies. What are the advantages to running struts? Do you guys think air shocks will fade out. Just trying to get some knowledge on them.
http://www.oristruts.com/index.html

bentandtwisted · Mar 22, 2008

We are switching three rigs to them now, Daves is done, Buddys this weekend and we are talking to them about running the DP3's on my new comp. rig for testing. Helps a ass load in the corners with the rock racing, if you are just trail riding not sure if they are a plus or not but for comps. I think you will be seeing more of them, great people to work with also. Ordered in Buddys and had them in a week. They have a built in bump stop, but I am sure you knew that alrteady. M

Cole · Mar 22, 2008

cool, I didn't know they had bumpstops in them.
What kinda price tag do they have?

InDaShop · Mar 22, 2008

I have checked those out. I was thinking about swapping to those in the rear cause it would be easy vs. all the work to get bumpcan pads on my axle.
Mike what do they run? I'm running a 16" x2" Airshock now.

muchado · Mar 22, 2008

InDaShop said:
I have checked those out. I was thinking about swapping to those in the rear cause it would be easy vs. all the work to get bumpcan pads on my axle.
Mike what do they run? I'm running a 16" x2" Airshock now.

They run about 5 hundo each.. Buddy said it was $2k for a set of 4

Cole · Mar 22, 2008

MUCHADO said:
They run about 5 hundo each.. Buddy said it was $2k for a set of 4

Thats not a bad price since they have built in Bump Stops.

InDaShop · Mar 22, 2008

exactly, and I can get some dough back for selling my airshocks, and my bumps. Shoot its only money right.

Whats a set of 14 & 16 airs go for used, and a 4 pack of airbumps (2 new, 2 barely used) I could be into struts fairly cheap. **** now I think about it, that would allow me to move my front out a bit. My front air bumps are what was limiting the move.

blacksheep10 · Mar 22, 2008

****, that's a lot more than I wanted to spend. that's coil over money. minus bumps. I already have 2 bumps though. Kind of at a crossroads here.

blacksheep10 · Mar 23, 2008

InDaShop said:
exactly, and I can get some dough back for selling my airshocks, and my bumps. Shoot its only money right.

Whats a set of 14 & 16 airs go for used, and a 4 pack of airbumps (2 new, 2 barely used) I could be into struts fairly cheap. **** now I think about it, that would allow me to move my front out a bit. My front air bumps are what was limiting the move.

sounds like I'm getting air shocks and you're getting struts laughing1

InDaShop · Mar 23, 2008

blacksheep10 said:
sounds like I'm getting air shocks and you're getting struts laughing1

I know we can work out a deal.

Mike, they are simple swap outs correct? Unbolt air, and bolt in strut? How did you figure up what ones to get for Buddy?

vanguard · Mar 23, 2008

bentandtwisted said:
Helps a ass load in the corners with the rock racing, if you are just trail riding not sure if they are a plus or not but for comps

Just curious, what makes you say that? I run air shocks and to me one of their biggest problems is that they are a pita to adjust. Once you get a grip on how the nitrogen to oil ratio impacts the spring rate you can turn them to do what you want. The problem is that I go to places like Crozet (huge rocks, tons of traction) where I'd like to sit low and get full bump just by putting a wheel on a rock. I also go to places like tellico (slippery and sometimes takes some "bug mashing") where I need uptravel and don't want to bottom out too hard.

If these struts could adjust to different places more easily than my air shocks I'd be psyched.

Thoughts?

bentandtwisted · Mar 24, 2008

The air shock just heat up too fast unlike the struts. They have a buiult in res. in them and hold more oil than a coilover with a res. Very easy to set up. They do NOT just replace what you have. They have a 1/2 inch, 5/8 inch or 3/4 inch bolt hole i n them and are wider than most air shocks and coilovers. I sent Buddy all new tabs so he could cut his off and re-mount them with the new tabs. The struts have a ton more adj. in them. I am not smart enough to tell everthing about them yet, I think it would be better for you to call them.

Take the price of a coilover, springs, tender kits X 4
Bump stops and cans X4
Build brackets on the chassis for cans and stop on the axles X 4

As a builder I can save the customer money by going this way, not saying that all the customers would want them, it is new, but it is an option I can lay out in front of them to have a nice ride and at a better price to them and less work for us.

blacksheep10 · Mar 24, 2008

If the adjustability of a coil over is there (albeit cheaper, no spring rebuys) and the antifade of a remote resi C/O is there, then I am looking that direction. I make my own bump cans and have the bumps. that's why I'm leaning towards wyatt's air shocks with my bumps.
bolt in deal is no prob with wyatt, I'll burn him some new tabs and install for free

muchado · Mar 24, 2008

blacksheep10 said:
If the adjustability of a coil over is there (albeit cheaper, no spring rebuys) and the antifade of a remote resi C/O is there, then I am looking that direction. I make my own bump cans and have the bumps. that's why I'm leaning towards wyatt's air shocks with my bumps.
bolt in deal is no prob with wyatt, I'll burn him some new tabs and install for free

Does that come with the complimentary Kaiser Kompound paint? (rust) :flipoff1:

InDaShop · Mar 24, 2008

MUCHADO said:
Does that come with the complimentary Kaiser Kompound paint? (rust)

Shhhh, thats custom mix. Got to pay high dollar to get the authentic shizzle.

muchado · Mar 25, 2008

yo Kelly... Matt just called and I guess he's ordering a set of ORI's now... He set up a vendor acct. I'd advise doing that for Vertical Limits.

side note: he got a refund on that LS2 that fed ex crushed with a forklift

laughing1 so he's searchin for a new motor (ls1 or ls2) so keep yer eyes and ears open

bentandtwisted · Mar 25, 2008

I am a Turn Key dealer, I can have it dropped to his door

muchado · Mar 25, 2008

bentandtwisted said:
I am a Turn Key dealer, I can have it dropped to his door

I keep tellin him since his **cough****cough** has the money just do turn key laughing1 That LS2 he had on the way was pretty good deal 2k miles outta a brand new caddy CTS-V--guy was swappin in a LS7

for $5600... owell I'm out wheelin' on the trail with my junky ass rig for half of that

blacksheep10 · Mar 25, 2008

MUCHADO said:
yo Kelly... Matt just called and I guess he's ordering a set of ORI's now... He set up a vendor acct. I'd advise doing that for Vertical Limits.

side note: he got a refund on that LS2 that fed ex crushed with a forklift laughing1 so he's searchin for a new motor (ls1 or ls2) so keep yer eyes and ears open

pm me $ he's saving as a strut dealer.

muchado · Mar 25, 2008

PM sent.

Matt also said that ORI has already tripled sales this year

of what 2007's total sales were...

Deremo was doin a good job pimpin em last year!! I'm sold on them other than I was never was or am in the market for coilovers or anything above my $200ea airshocks.