Tubes with beadlocks?

whitetrashfab · Jun 4, 2011

I ran 36" Irocks on 15" DIY beadlocks for a long time and never had any trouble with them leaking even at 2 psi in the snow. Now that I switched to 1 ton running gear I went with 17" wheels with DIY beadlocks and 39.5" Irocks and I cant air down much lower then 8 psi or they burp air out of the inner bead on side hills or hitting stumps and rocks. Any time the tire rolls over its self it will leak for a few seconds or untill I start rolling again. I was thinking about putting some heavy duty AG tubes in and seeing if that fixes the problem? Anyone else run into this? Any Ideas?

Jaydog · Jun 4, 2011

I've heard good stuff about Tech bead sealer http://www.nwsalesgroup.com/product/238.aspx

Personally I would be apprehensive about a tube at low pressures, I would think it would have a tendency to move around inside the tire or kink, I could be way off though as I've never tried it. Also, I'm sure somebody will chime in, but I think you can weld a bead around the rim that helps with the issue as well.

Binder · Jun 4, 2011

Jaydog said:
Also, I'm sure somebody will chime in, but I think you can weld a bead around the rim that helps with the issue as well.

Yup. This is what I did to all my beadlocks.:awesomework:

TreeClimber · Jun 4, 2011

I cut a 35 Bogger (years ago) and had it vulcinized. The repair still seeped air, so I tried a patch. That didn't work either, so I ran a tube. At 3-5 psi I never had a problem. As a matter of fact, it was the only tire that consistantly never 'seeped' air from crap in the bead. I genuinely thought about running tubes in all the tires for that reason. Lasted for several years, of active wheeling, without a tube failure.

You MUST get a tube that's properly sized for the larger than normal tires. Not all 15 inch tubes are the same.

Tony

CHOP SHOP · Jun 4, 2011

Binder said:
Yup. This is what I did to all my beadlocks.:awesomework:

Mine have a beadlock on the outer bead and the inner bead has a hoop of 3/16ths thicl round rod welded to the rim on top of the little safety bead ridge thats stamped into the tire.

It takes explosive forces (carb cleaner) to mount them, but I have NEVER had them burp air or EVER lose an inner bead.

This is on a 11 inch wide beadlock and a 38.5x16 wide tsl swamper.

Iroks have shitty beads also. My roomate went from TSLs to Iroks on his beadlocks and had all kinds of problems and we had to dismount and turn them around a few times to get a good consistent bead thickness to clamp under the beadlock ring properly. He does not have round rod welded on his inner bead either tho.

Binder · Jun 4, 2011

CHOP SHOP said:
Mine have a beadlock on the outer bead and the inner bead has a hoop of 3/16ths thicl round rod welded to the rim on top of the little safety bead ridge thats stamped into the tire.

It takes explosive forces (carb cleaner) to mount them, but I have NEVER had them burp air or EVER lose an inner bead.

Yup. I use 9 gage wire to do mine and they're a bitch to break the bead when you need to.:eeek:

whitetrashfab · Jun 6, 2011

I would think the bead would get torn up trying to dismount them with a ring welded inside, how do you bust them down?

JOOP · Jun 6, 2011

CHOP SHOP said:
Iroks have shitty beads also. My roomate went from TSLs to Iroks on his beadlocks and had all kinds of problems and we had to dismount and turn them around a few times to get a good consistent bead thickness to clamp under the beadlock ring properly. He does not have round rod welded on his inner bead either tho.

See now when I ran 36" Irok's I never had a problem with them leaking air, then when I went to 39 tsl's the inner bead would burp out air at anything lower than 5psi.

So now it's, H1 double bead locks for the win!!!

Binder · Jun 6, 2011

whitetrashfab said:
I would think the bead would get torn up trying to dismount them with a ring welded inside, how do you bust them down?

They don't seem to they're just hard to bust. I use a high lift jack under the front of my super duty and still fight it.

whitetrashfab · Jun 6, 2011

Yep, never had a problem with my 36's but my 39's suck! I dont know if going from a 15" rim to a 17" rim changed anything? They both looked like they had about the same bead lip so my only guess is the extra weight and taller tires? If I cant find anyone that makes tubes in that size I guess I'll weld some round stock in there and see how it works?

Binder · Jun 6, 2011

Given that check E bay for inner tubes.

whitetrashfab · Jun 14, 2011

Looked at how you did yours on priate, decided that the way Im gona go. I busted one tire and wheel apart and found almost nothing for an inner bead lip so I will weld 3/16 cold rolled in there and see how it works...

Thanks!

whitetrashfab · Jun 15, 2011

Got one done tonight and 4 ready to weld. Didn't take that much air to push them over the ring like everyone talked about on Pirate? I did find that one bead was almost 1/4 thicker then the bead on the other side of the same tire, and they were all like that. Measured some 42" irocks and they were both about the same?