Just wanting to know how many of you buggy guys have full width axles. And the pros and cons to using them. i see a lot of axles cut down and clocking the knuckles . is that so you fit better threw the trees? thanks for the info.
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full width axles on buggy???
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You have alot to learn there grasshopper,lol.....
The width thing--usually a personal deal. And of course backspacing comes into play.
For example some guys will run a 65" diff with 4" backspaced wheels. In my case I run a 62" diff with 2" backspaced wheels. As for cut/turn thats to achieve proper caster...
You have to consider a lot of factors...frame width,tire size, turning,shock placement,t-case ect.....
Ask your self ....Will the tires hit the frame at full turn? ... How big of tire?... If I get the fancy cut 300m or 1550 steering joint will my 40's hit the frame? That motor I bought sure is wide, if I narrow the axles the tire are sure to hit. Damn that Stak 3 speedTcase is wide......hmmm narrow them? Dammit, now the tire hit the rear cage at only 1/2 flex
Make your decisions carefully......... or narrow it now, then buy spacers later
TTF Fabrication
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a lot of though goes into building a buggy like everyone has stated so far. decide on your drivetrain, suspension, engine, tires steering, etc... how wide do you want it, a tight two seater, single seater, or two seater with plenty of room. if you're thinking of building a buggy you should know exactly what you'd like to build because you've wheeled with different set ups and figured out what your ideal rig would be so you wouldn't even be asking about what width axles to run in it. not trying to be negative just stating the facts.
No nothing negative about it. I have had these dana 60s (i think the rear is a 70) for some time now and was tossing around the idea of what to do with them. i kinda like the diy 321 buggy kit from essentially offroad. Ok so hears what they say the buggy is designed for.
hears the web page so you all can see.
http://shop.eoronline.com/product.sc?categoryId=23&productId=294
And a pic of one http://www.eoronline.com/photopro321.html
Chassis Specs Base Chassis kit .120 Wall H.R.E.W. 1.75? tubing Chassis design to accommodate 110?-120? Wheelbases 2 seater Overall width at center section 50? Total chassis length 132? Chassis height 42? Front frame width 33? Allow three weeks for kit assembly and packaging Kit Description At release kits run $2295 Shipped anywhere in the lower 48 states Kit come completely notched and ready to weld by end user Kit does not include main frame rails which are readily available 2x3 rectangle tube (will ship at additional cost) Includes frame rail connectors to allow easy alignment of frame pieces. Uses external frame rails to allow a large variety of drive train choices and increase chassis durability and reduce overall weight. Will accommodate any engine small 4cyl to big block Designed for use with full width axle assemblies Units will ship with written instructions to allow seamless assembly Square frame rails allows the units to be self jigging just level them up and build Kit Options Options will include lower frame cross members for transmission installation and link mounting points. C.A.D. designed Dual master cylinder mounting bracket C.A.D. designed in cab Orbital mount C.A.D. designed self jigging suspension link mounting points Written Description With the increasing cost of fuel, shipping and daily expenses, of off roaders need more options. After over 10 years in the cage kit business; Essentially Offroad has developed a lower cost buggy solution for the DYI fabricator. A complete mail order buggy builder kit called the 321. Designed to remove the expense of tools the average fabricator will only use on rare occasions. These kits feature 1.75? tubing and come complete notched and ready to weld with detailed instructions and assembly video. All the customer needs to supply is the 2x3? mainframe rails, and an experienced welder. Kits are designed to be low and lean accommodating wheelbases from 110?-120? inches full width axles and a variety of drive train choices from 4cyl to big block. Options for each kit include orbital mounts, transmission cross member, brake pedal mounts, and link mount kits. 3/16 heavy wall main frame rails add $250 1/8 wall for lighter applications add $200
hears the web page so you all can see.
http://shop.eoronline.com/product.sc?categoryId=23&productId=294
And a pic of one http://www.eoronline.com/photopro321.html
Chassis Specs Base Chassis kit .120 Wall H.R.E.W. 1.75? tubing Chassis design to accommodate 110?-120? Wheelbases 2 seater Overall width at center section 50? Total chassis length 132? Chassis height 42? Front frame width 33? Allow three weeks for kit assembly and packaging Kit Description At release kits run $2295 Shipped anywhere in the lower 48 states Kit come completely notched and ready to weld by end user Kit does not include main frame rails which are readily available 2x3 rectangle tube (will ship at additional cost) Includes frame rail connectors to allow easy alignment of frame pieces. Uses external frame rails to allow a large variety of drive train choices and increase chassis durability and reduce overall weight. Will accommodate any engine small 4cyl to big block Designed for use with full width axle assemblies Units will ship with written instructions to allow seamless assembly Square frame rails allows the units to be self jigging just level them up and build Kit Options Options will include lower frame cross members for transmission installation and link mounting points. C.A.D. designed Dual master cylinder mounting bracket C.A.D. designed in cab Orbital mount C.A.D. designed self jigging suspension link mounting points Written Description With the increasing cost of fuel, shipping and daily expenses, of off roaders need more options. After over 10 years in the cage kit business; Essentially Offroad has developed a lower cost buggy solution for the DYI fabricator. A complete mail order buggy builder kit called the 321. Designed to remove the expense of tools the average fabricator will only use on rare occasions. These kits feature 1.75? tubing and come complete notched and ready to weld with detailed instructions and assembly video. All the customer needs to supply is the 2x3? mainframe rails, and an experienced welder. Kits are designed to be low and lean accommodating wheelbases from 110?-120? inches full width axles and a variety of drive train choices from 4cyl to big block. Options for each kit include orbital mounts, transmission cross member, brake pedal mounts, and link mount kits. 3/16 heavy wall main frame rails add $250 1/8 wall for lighter applications add $200
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Binder
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Full width axles on a buggy are gay.:rb:
Hellbilly
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If you dont mind waiting for months and months for your chassis this is what I would do also:redneck:
Oh wait, This is what I'm doing and still waiting!:fawkdancesmiley:
PORTER
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Full width axles and alot of backspacing will work. Last buggy I owned had a full width 60 under the front with stock dodge(06) aluminum wheels, with 40 Creepys, was measured at 78 outside of tire. With drive flanges hub stuck out a little , but IMO was not an issue. Key with running this setup is having the lower links triangulated so full turn is achieved. And yes on the S&N Chassis like others have said, IMO one of the best in the business. I have one and have no regrets on the choice I made.
Arnt they bending it now?? Thats cool to see all the prebent pieces for a entire car laying on the ground.
skinny_pedal
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Kieth is available
SHADDUP!!! Im going over there right now to talk about some work.
That last chassis he made turned out smokin.
Hellbilly
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Do you have some inside info?:redneck: I know DSI is here, and I didn't ask if they where still planning on doing them both at the same time because the plan is for Dave's to get done as a full roller this week.:haha:
Maybe I'll take a drive down there to see this entire car of prebent pieces laying on the ground. I wont hold my breath though!:redneck:
I have no idea what they are doing. Im too much of a puss to go to their shop now.
It's all about the timing, sometimes were ready to build a chassis right away, but in your case your at the back of the line:fawkdancesmiley: .
Full roller in one week..... that's completely doable, done it before and we'll do it again.:flipoff: We'll be wrapping up 2 TJ's during this week too. It's all about deadlines, and long weeks
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Outside tire to outside tire - 79" or less = :awesomework:
Outside tire to outside tire - 80" or more = :rb: (or really,:redneck: REALLY fun to watch)
What's an "axles"?:eeek:
Outside tire to outside tire - 80" or more = :rb: (or really,:redneck: REALLY fun to watch)
What's an "axles"?:eeek:
