14 Bolt Chromoly debate

Corey Y · Apr 3, 2015

I have a shaved 14 bolt sitting in the shop. Just chop it and weld the plate on. What front shafts are you going to run? That is usually the weak link.

CJunky16 · Apr 3, 2015

Crazy Daze said:
I have a shaved 14 bolt sitting in the shop. Just chop it and weld the plate on. What front shafts are you going to run? That is usually the weak link.

I havnt gotten that far yet. Ill start looking into it as soon as i finish this 14b. Ill end up posting a thread about the 60 when i start tearing into it.

CJunky16 · Apr 3, 2015

Any one happen to know where i could get my hands on a cheap spool for this 14b?

I posted a WTB thread in the classified section but i figured id ask here too.

Corey Y · Apr 4, 2015

Properly welded side gears and spiders wont fail, its not a Dana 35.

DHR Darren · Apr 4, 2015

Crazy Daze said:
Properly welded side gears and spiders wont fail, its not a Dana 35.

This. Lots of rod/wire and some 1/2" thick plates inside the stock carrier work wonders.

whatthe? · Apr 4, 2015

CJunky16 said:
Any one happen to know where i could get my hands on a cheap spool for this 14b?

I posted a WTB thread in the classified section but i figured id ask here too.

Like it's been said, in your shop with a welder. Run the stock shafts until you prove you can break them.

KarlVP · Apr 4, 2015

Stock shafts dont break eh?

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G109e8rRotg[/YT]

mark · Apr 4, 2015

Anything breaks. Looking at that vid, after that tire fell into that hole, just about anything was doomed if you had power.

Donkeylips · Apr 4, 2015

CJunky16 said:
Ya im building this 14b for the rear and i have a King Pin Dana 60 for the front ill start building as soon as the 14b is done.

I suppose i will be starting a thread here pretty soon about the shave kit. Id be looking for some advice and tips on how not to **** it up.

I am in the same boat. I have a bunch of **** on order. The 14B and D60 (also king pin) won't get love until I have the Atlas and associated tunnel mods squared away. So I'll be looking for your thread on the shave.

mark said:
Anything breaks. Looking at that vid, after that tire fell into that hole, just about anything was doomed if you had power.

Agreed. If not a shaft then something else. Better a shaft than a t-case.

KarlVP · Apr 4, 2015

I'm working with Tommybuiltfab on my 15 bolt shave right now. His kit does not include machining of the ring gear. Instead, he machines a groove in the shave plate to accommodate.

Yeah, 14bolt, shave, gears and ARB. This **** isn't cheap.

CJunky16 · Apr 6, 2015

KarlVP said:
I'm working with Tommybuiltfab on my 15 bolt shave right now. His kit does not include machining of the ring gear. Instead, he machines a groove in the shave plate to accommodate.

Yeah, 14bolt, shave, gears and ARB. This **** isn't cheap.

Ballistic's shave kit also has that groove but ya...a we know they shave the gears. So does the kit your are building give 2" of clearance too?

CJunky16 · Apr 6, 2015

Donkeylips said:
I am in the same boat. I have a bunch of **** on order. The 14B and D60 (also king pin) won't get love until I have the Atlas and associated tunnel mods squared away. So I'll be looking for your thread on the shave.

Agreed. If not a shaft then something else. Better a shaft than a t-case.

Ya, ill definitely be starting a thread for when its time to do the shave kit. Should be in the next week or two.

KarlVP · Apr 6, 2015

CJunky16 said:
Ballistic's shave kit also has that groove but ya...a we know they shave the gears. So does the kit your are building give 2" of clearance too?

It's a little more than 1 1/2 inch of clearance. But that really isn't what you are looking for. Getting rid of the giant shovel on the bottom of the diff is fantastic.

Donkeylips · Apr 6, 2015

CJunky16 said:
Ballistic's shave kit also has that groove but ya...a we know they shave the gears. So does the kit your are building give 2" of clearance too?

TMR Customs also has a shave kit if you don't feel like dealing with Ballistic's pooptacular customer service. I got lucky and bought the diff cover and kit at the swap meet.

WHITE TRASH1 · Apr 6, 2015

KarlVP said:
It's a little more than 1 1/2 inch of clearance. But that really isn't what you are looking for. Getting rid of the giant shovel on the bottom of the diff is fantastic.

All I did was take a Sawzall to the lip then smooth it out with a flapper wheel on my grinder. I had to tap the lip for a couple 1/4 20 bolts on either side of the shaved lower bolt but that was it. I wasn't too worried about the ground clearance just losing the shovel since I was running 44's :redneck:

ChrisStewart · Apr 8, 2015

KarlVP said:
I'm working with Tommybuiltfab on my 15 bolt shave right now. His kit does not include machining of the ring gear. Instead, he machines a groove in the shave plate to accommodate.

Yeah, 14bolt, shave, gears and ARB. This **** isn't cheap.

Got a link?

KarlVP · Apr 8, 2015

ChrisStewart said:
Got a link?

Tom doesn't have a site or anything.

His **** is similar to the TMR customs 15 bolt kit.

CJunky16 · Apr 8, 2015

KarlVP said:
I'm working with Tommybuiltfab on my 15 bolt shave right now. His kit does not include machining of the ring gear. Instead, he machines a groove in the shave plate to accommodate.

Yeah, 14bolt, shave, gears and ARB. This **** isn't cheap.

**** ya. getting the 14b was the cheap/easy part.

JOOP · Apr 8, 2015

I've been running my dana 70, 35 spline with absolutely no issues and I beat on it.

pjgett · May 7, 2015

I have broke a 14bolt axle but was on a suburban on 44s...haven't broke one yet on my cj5 with a turbo sbc and 44s and it gets beat non stop and has broke a ring gear and twisted and bent axle tubes