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5.0 swap into 90 toy ext cab

Vehicle engineering gone wrong. Why have a rig you NEED to ***** foot so you dont break everything downstream of the engine.

Bouncing on the limiter is way more fun than being towed out.
i assume that comment was directed at me? would have helped had you committed to it, and actually quoted me if so...


nothing wrong, just poor. i figure i can upgrade as needed. so far, theres been no need. i wouldnt say i ***** foot anything. i do what i need to. but i have no desire to go out, and intentionally try to break ****. i dont have the time, money or patience for that.
 
here is the deal im swaping in a 5.0 crown vic motor into my 90 extended cab, but i dont no what tranny to run. I have the stock v6 tranny but the bellhousing kit is pretty pricey. I also have a c4 but it needs rebuilt. The v6 bellhousing to 302 kit is about 850 and the c4 to toyota t-case is about 650. i like the 5 speed but im not sure how it will hold up. Im running 37s now but have a set of 39.5 irocks that are going on when these die. Im going to run 4:10's with a detroit in the back with a v6 pod and an auburn e locker in the front in my wagoneer 44 with chromolly shafts. so any input would be great if anyone out there has done swap so thanks:mad:

The toy tranny would hold up for a while. The problem is with the shock loads you get from horse power--that tranny would end up breaking--even faster if you like to get on it and let the motor do its thing from time to time. If your light and fluffy the toy tranny will do just fine.
 
i assume that comment was directed at me? would have helped had you committed to it, and actually quoted me if so...


nothing wrong, just poor. i figure i can upgrade as needed. so far, theres been no need. i wouldnt say i ***** foot anything. i do what i need to. but i have no desire to go out, and intentionally try to break ****. i dont have the time, money or patience for that.

Please indicate why you think i was talking to you. Also, please start figuring not azzuming..its safer

Lastly, Putting a 5.0 in a toy with yota axles is akin to putting a 401 amc v-8 in a jeep with dana 30 axles. Tottaly contradictory to getting the job done. If you argue this then i have no responce as its just stupid to not match drivetrain systems.
 
Please indicate why you think i was talking to you. Also, please start figuring not azzuming..its safer

Lastly, Putting a 5.0 in a toy with yota axles is akin to putting a 401 amc v-8 in a jeep with dana 30 axles. Tottaly contradictory to getting the job done. If you argue this then i have no responce as its just stupid to not match drivetrain systems.

well played :bananadance:
 
Please indicate why you think i was talking to you. Also, please start figuring not azzuming..its safer

Lastly, Putting a 5.0 in a toy with yota axles is akin to putting a 401 amc v-8 in a jeep with dana 30 axles. Tottaly contradictory to getting the job done. If you argue this then i have no responce as its just stupid to not match drivetrain systems.
based on me saying i had stock internals, and u saying "Vehicle engineering gone wrong". i just assumed, like i said. thats why i ALSO said itd have been nice had you quoted who you were talking to...and actually commit to your response. and so the rest of us would know who the **** you are talking to/about.

toy axles are MORE than adequate to handle a 302.
sorry, but thats a VERY bad comparison. a 401 has gobs more power than a SBF/C.

the birfs.... well, we break those with the 4cyl.:mad: obviously they need upgraded.

im not here to argue. but a sbf/c with yota axles has been done to death, but im sure you already know that.....:cheer:
 
based on me saying i had stock internals, and u saying "Vehicle engineering gone wrong". i just assumed, like i said. thats why i ALSO said itd have been nice had you quoted who you were talking to...and actually commit to your response. and so the rest of us would know who the **** you are talking to/about.

toy axles are MORE than adequate to handle a 302.
sorry, but thats a VERY bad comparison. a 401 has gobs more power than a SBF/C.

the birfs.... well, we break those with the 4cyl.:mad: obviously they need upgraded.

im not here to argue. but a sbf/c with yota axles has been done to death, but im sure you already know that.....:cheer:

That right there is the greatest oxymoron ive ever read. I had a feeling about you, Now i know i was right...keep on truckin
 
toy axles are MORE than adequate to handle a 302.
Birfs.... well, we break those with the 4cyl.

8 inch ring gear will also be on the list. IF you actually use the engine. Personally i would rather get rowdy with all stock toyota drivetrain junk as its engineered fairly well for the rest of its parts.

This is my opinion and its fawking RIGHT!!!!!:haha:
 
i am running the 44 because it was free i had an 85 front end in it with a widening kit but i cracked the housing and gernaded the ring and pinion. so i got the wagoneer front end from a buddy who was scrapping the whole jeep. it one inch wider than the stock ifs stuff, ive only wheeled it a couple times with the 37's on it and i didnt break nothing and trust me i abused the hell out of it. so i guess id say as much of a fan iam of toyota drivetrain i think i like the dana 44 a little better.
 
thought about the sm 420 but i dont know anyone who makes a bellhousing kit to bolt it up to a small block ford. If i could find a kit id probably go that rout. If not my buddy has a np 435 with a small block ford housing on it already and i think i can get that pretty cheap off of him. ive already found the adapter to go to my duell cases. this is about 300 bucks cheaper than the 5.0 to toyota transmision bellhousing.
 
These topics always amuse me.

I still remember a conversation me and conover had a number of years ago--back when the dana 60 started becoming used --crap can't even remember how long ago it was..

In any case--he simply said what fun is it when you come to an obstacle and you either have to 1 back down due to the axle limitations or 2 ***** foot it due to the axle limitations. I always had that in the back of my mind and looking back, there were a number of things I did what and how due to my axles (mainly the 44).

Now with this there are variables and typicly its your powerplant and gearing.

Plain and simply you cannot trick or cheat physics...
 

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