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I can neither confirm nor deny, but do know the answer to the question that you seek. :flipoff1: Actually thanked him for the posts........it was good reading.
 
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Okay, back on topic. I'll accept suggestions on this one. The following is a private message from patooyee titled Hypocrite.

I have never seen porn as an issue on this site and feel he is trying to internet bully a position. What say EasyLine?

Please remember, what is said in EasyLine, stays in EasyLine!!

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patooyee said:
John,

I've sat here this entire time I was banned trying to figure out how to put this. It is the primary source of my comments to you via text. (I did delete your number as you requested.) I could have made a thread about it but my goal isn't to bring people down or create drama. So I've decided that addressing it with you directly and privately is the best way. That being said, it is difficult for me to address just from a wording perspective without making it sound insulting. So I ask that before you judge please try not to be insulted because that is not my intent either. I just don't know a great way to present the facts while using overly sensitive wording.

The week that Casey posted his thread one of the most important people on the planet to me was sexually assaulted. Both them and the attacker are minors so I am not going to go into great detail as to identities or specifics of the case. The short story is that a person who was too young to understand porn got a hold of some very explicit material and re-enacted it upon another young person. At this point both families are dealing with it as best we can and trying to move on. But it happened and it happened because porn got into the wrong hands.

I believe that as a man of faith it is hypocritical of you to admin a site that offers pornographic material to indiscriminate audiences. You do so much to help children's foundations and then offer porn to those same children freely. I believe that the bible you believe in considers porn a sin and that it does not distinguish between softcore and hardcore porn. Thus, independent of the audiences you offer the material to, I believe it is hypocritical to offer it at all. You're basically saying, "I hate sin, I'll ban anyone that questions my hate of sin, but here's a whole bunch of sin for those who want it."

The true rank of Jesus in the hearts of HL members is shown simply by sorting General Discussion by activity and views. The porn threads are 3 of the top 6 most viewed with the Jesus thread being #11 IIRC. The porn threads are 3 of the top 10 most active with Jesus being #14. It's simply beyond my senses that a man who is obviously thinking of the afterlife right now finds it so easy to ban people but not porn. If you Google "side boob thread" the thread here on HL is the #3 result last I checked. There are SEO companies that get paid big money for worse search engine results than those. More than just horny, sinful 4x4 guys are checking those threads to obtain those kinds of search engine rankings. Is that really what you want to stand in front of those pearly gates to explain someday? Would you go to your preacher proud of the porn your site has to offer? Do you want your grandchildren to come to HL to learn of this great hobby of ours only to be presented with a cornucopia of porn as well?

I realized while I was banned that HL is the only link on any computer I have ever owned that directs to a site with porn. That makes ME a hypocrite as well. My daughter or any of her friends could click that link and be directed to any of the porn threads here on this site. As such I have decided to do something about it. Until such time as HL has stopped offering porn I will not be an active participant and I will not have links to HL anywhere on my computing equipment. This isn't a threat or an ultimatum. I am certain HL will get on just fine without me and I would even miss HL. It's obvious that some people here would even prefer to be rid of me. It's just a statement of how important the issue is to me. While I think that HL could be a thing of greatness, it is a thing of nothingness compared to a moment of any child's innocence to me.

90% of the internet is devoted to porn, I realize this. Kids can get it if they seek it. So can adults. So why do they need to get it here? Why do we need be a part of the problem instead of apart FROM the problem?

Anyway, I noticed you removed me from the Magic Carpet Ride as well. That's your prerogative. But please know that, despite these views, I do genuinely hope the best for you. I do deeply care and in my heart I think about you many times a day.

Sincerely,

J. J.
 
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The ban brought this on. Is he not going to participate on Pirate as well? Because this is a small forum, with people you do know or have a good chance to meet does that make a difference?

It is possible to make a forum with political, adult type posts that requires a password. I am not in favor of that, but it is an option.

JJ clearly ****ed up, and admitted it. I read the original post and his apology seemed heartfelt. That being said, he seems to try and use the God speech when he sees fit to use it. I am a sinner and slip more than most. I do try to act as I should but fail daily. I don't try to impose my thoughts on an entire community that I did not start. It is there to click if you want, there to not click if you don't want too.

Ramble, ramble



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I'm pissed, just had a long post typed and lost it all....work computer giving me fits!

I would steer the path HL has been on and certainly not worry about what JJ thinks. He is not a happy person. Everything does not have to be cut and dried. He apparently isn't a religious person and threatens to leave over nudy threads......well the difference here is: there are several highly religious folks on here that don't say anything about said threads because they are grown ass men and their parents taught them how to look over **** that they don't agree with.

I've never been a JJ fan because he lacks in the personality department. As long as he is right or you see things his way, he doesn't care....and that doesn't sit well with me. And that's something I would tell him to his face, but I'm sure he probably already knows I'm not a fan of him.

No matter what he says, HL is not putting nudy stuff in the hands of children. That's the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard. If they are that young, it's the parent's responsibility to monitor their internet usage. There is 5 million places to find it before you would stumble across a few titty pics on an offroad forum. I don't even look at those threads, but I don't give a **** that they exist either, it's nothing to me.

Sounds like this someone that was "assaulted", possibly his little girl?, has led him to have to place the blame on something tangible, so he points to nudy stuff. It really burns me up he possesses the pretentiousness to even try to tie all that crap together in a spitefully titled pm, like he's calling you out. As I said in the so called JJ hate thread, sometimes people (JJ) just need to learn to shut the **** up and go on about their business.

(p.s. I use the phrase nudy stuff so werk computer filter doesn't pick it up haha)

I would, at the very most, reply and say "Look man, I appreciate your opinion, I'm sorry you feel that way, have a good day" and leave it at that. Let him decide. If he wants to leave, so be it. If he wants to stay and overlook the threads, that's perfectly fine. If he stays and ends up creating a public thread demanding answers on the matter, stick the ban hammer up his ass and turn it sideways. HL ain't got time for **** to revolve around his perfect world, nobody is making him stay here...
 
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He should never leave the house, never own a tv, never let his daughter out of his sight nor go to school if that is the way he thinks.
 
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Porn threads have absolutely nothing to do with this forum IMO. If you don't like it, don't click it .
 
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bbone said:
Porn threads have absolutely nothing to do with this forum IMO. If you don't like it, don't click it .

Do you think they classify as "porn"? No dicks allowed, no penetration of any kind allowed. I have always looked on it as nudity, not porn. Am I wrong?
 
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If you go hardcore bible thumping extremism, it might be considered pornographic. If you have ever been to this site, youporn.com, then it might not even be considered nudity.

I like JJ, but he is in a weird mental spiral that I have participated in at times. Justifying something or condemning actions to make it work for your own personal gain makes you look like an idiot, no matter how well thought out or how well your argument is presented.

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JohnG said:
Do you think they classify as "porn"? No dicks allowed, no penetration of any kind allowed. I have always looked on it as nudity, not porn. Am I wrong?


I don't. But it doesn't matter what any of us think according to JJ
 
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Of this small group, who has spent the most time with JJ? Imam gonna guess Ben Bone, but its just a guess. I have a good friend that I deal with sometimes. Just think this is a similar situation. Good guy, just caught up in a situation where he can't logic his way out. Basically brings up the old blue screen of death, for all you windows fans.

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JohnG said:
Do you think they classify as "porn"? No dicks allowed, no penetration of any kind allowed. I have always looked on it as nudity, not porn. Am I wrong?



This site absolutely cannot be classified as pornographic and the little bit it does show nudity can be thought of as a form of art if need be. Maybe Redneck version of art, but nothing sexually explicit. If it offends you, go to a different thread. You are not being led on to see anything you don't want to see or act upon. JJ must be in a dark area of his life and looking to vent somehow.
I belong to many other groups and it's prevalent in almost every form of Motorsports whether you like it or not. I guess the next fad will have to be a gay man holding the trophy wearing spandex at the Talladega 500 because we don't want to offend the gay rights activist. I wonder what JJ would do if two gay men walked into his Barbeque joint holding hands and being all lovey dovey? John, you need not second guess your ban decision or having a thread baring the human body. I am not a Muslim and do enjoy a nice set of knockers. Keep up the good work sir.
 
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lowbudgetjunk said:
Of this small group, who has spent the most time with JJ? Imam gonna guess Ben Bone, but its just a guess. I have a good friend that I deal with sometimes. Just think this is a similar situation. Good guy, just caught up in a situation where he can't logic his way out. Basically brings up the old blue screen of death, for all you windows fans.

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I've probably known him the longest. I don't know what happened with his daughter but that whole deal is strange. I don't have a problem with the nudity threads at all. It's everywhere.
 
I get on here everyday and read a couple different threads, when I see a new thread pop up the first thing I do is see if JJ started the thread or not. If he has, I steer clear of it because it's usually some over thought bunch of crap that most people would've solved in two seconds... he makes my brain hurt. I've met him once and tried to give him the benefit of my doubt but just can't get past it. I know I don't post much anymore but I hope this helps you make a decision one way or the other. By the way nudity is everywhere now a days.
 
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Juan_Hong_Loe said:
I get on here everyday and read a couple different threads, when I see a new thread pop up the first thing I do is see if JJ started the thread or not. If he has, I steer clear of it because it's usually some over thought bunch of crap that most people would've solved in two seconds... he makes my brain hurt. I've met him once and tried to give him the benefit of my doubt but just can't get past it. I know I don't post much anymore but I hope this helps you make a decision one way or the other. By the way nudity is everywhere now a days.
Spot on. To the T.
 
I have typed several replies out lately to this topic and deleted them. Some of the BS he typed to JohnG is laughable. It really doesn't even deserve our time to talk about. Bottom line is HL is a forum, not your parent. If you are deciding that this forum is the place where your kids might learn about porn you have big problems in life.
 
I'm here because it's a new thread.
My thoughts about the OT, PLEASE get better John, we're in good hands if Chasman has "do-work" for a while. I juss wanna see you in a beard again!

The Patoyee debacle, meh, I quit reading that PM rant after the second line. It's as unimportant as any of his rant/posts on here. Garbage that he types out, sends, then probably re-reads himself as many times as everyone else combined. Just seems like the kinda guy he is. And yes, I've met him in person.

With regards to this site being a porn site, I use this analogy a lot: If it's a good habit, then you aren't it. But if it's a bad habit, by-gawd, you are IT!
"I run twice a month!"
"Well, you still aren't a runner. You're just a person who occasionally runs"
adverse
"I smoke a cigarette twice a month"
"YOU'RE A SMOKER!!!"

HardLine is a fuggin offroad forum. Period. We discuss EVERYTHING. Including grown-ass-men who need tampons.
 
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LandSpeeder said:
I'm here because it's a new thread.
My thoughts about the OT, PLEASE get better John, we're in good hands if Chasman has "do-work" for a while. I juss wanna see you in a beard again!

The Patoyee debacle, meh, I quit reading that PM rant after the second line. It's as unimportant as any of his rant/posts on here. Garbage that he types out, sends, then probably re-reads himself as many times as everyone else combined. Just seems like the kinda guy he is. And yes, I've met him in person.

With regards to this site being a porn site, I use this analogy a lot: If it's a good habit, then you aren't it. But if it's a bad habit, by-gawd, you are IT!
"I run twice a month!"
"Well, you still aren't a runner. You're just a person who occasionally runs"
adverse
"I smoke a cigarette twice a month"
"YOU'RE A SMOKER!!!"

HardLine is a fuggin offroad forum. Period. We discuss EVERYTHING. Including grown-ass-men who need tampons.
^^^^ Thank you for the laugh this morning. Haven't seen you in a bit and miss the colorful commentary.

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All of you have already said what I wanted to say but i do have a question.
Why now not be a part because of the nudity? It didnt just start today on here.

I also believe that nudity and porn are 2 different things and that porn is kept off HL.

I can't imagine what he is going through with the child situation and hope that never happens to anyone.
 
I'd like to nominate Josh Dean as a moderator.
He's always here, has a clear head on his shoulders, has his finger on the pulse of this community.


Nudity v. porn. To be honest its whatever floats your boat. I call the 35% on HL nudity. I think 35% is the designation of nudity. If you want porn, HL isnt really the place a guy would look. Unless thats in another secret group of something... laughing1

J.J., hes good and bad, I avoid any of his social BS, but hes great for tech, always has been back to the early 2000's on PBB.

My $0.02 you get for free because I think JD's sister is hot.
 
InDaShop said:
I'd like to nominate Josh Dean as a moderator.
He's always here, has a clear head on his shoulders, has his finger on the pulse of this community.


Nudity v. porn. To be honest its whatever floats your boat. I call the 35% on HL nudity. I think 35% is the designation of nudity. If you want porn, HL isnt really the place a guy would look. Unless thats in another secret group of something... laughing1

J.J., hes good and bad, I avoid any of his social BS, but hes great for tech, always has been back to the early 2000's on PBB.

My $0.02 you get for free because I think JD's sister is hot.


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