Ah darn it (blacksheep10 please read)

muchado · Apr 8, 2008

GIVE THE CAMERA A SHOCKER YEEEEYAWWWWWWW!

:indianajones:

vanguard · Apr 8, 2008

wngrog said:
what are you replacing the 3rd with that is stronger?

Short answer: A high pinion toyota third should be stronger because it runs on the drive side.

Long answer:
So the last time I broke this R&P it was because I spun the carrier bearing on the carrier. (According to gearman) Because it was in the middle of a $2,000+ project I was looking for an inexpensive solution. Instead of replacing the carrier I used locktite sleeve/bearing retainer (green stuff) to hold the bearing on the carrier. If it held, I have no idea how to make it any stronger and I need something new. If it didn't hold I need to replace the carrier and there isn't much use sinking more money into this third member.

So that's the plan. As for race hating, I don't think Nolen meant anything harsh about it. I'm out of my league and I knew that. The goal was to shoot for four smooth runs and finish in the top third. I'm thinking hard about running Jellico or Badlands. I still think I can finish in the top third if I have a good day.

blacksheep10 · Apr 8, 2008

I think wyatt is talking about nolen's race hating in general, not just this particular event. I can't afford to race, so I don't right now. Sometimes its about following your dreams even though it doesn't make sense, financially or any other way.

bigsilly · Apr 8, 2008

InDaShop said:
How does he know he cant win at Ghey Rock?

Nolen, I love you to death man. But the race hatin' is played out. I agree with your statements, alot of money and time for little actual wheeling.
But I'm cool giving that up for now for the thrill of the race. Same as I'd give up driving every single day of the week to be able to have 3 hours behind the wheel each Sunday in the Nextel Cup. Thats the sense of your arguement to me. This isn't about the money or the wheeling. Its about doing something very few will ever try or attempt to do. Its about testing ourselves, our strengths, our weaknesses.
For me its not about money, fame, glory, whatever you want to make it out to be. For me its about seeing if I can be competive with guys that are "THAT LEVEL". Brian Shirley, Shannon Campbell, etc, etc, and so on and so forth, I'm talking about the current heros of offroad sports. And for ME, to have an opportunity just to take the field with such distinguished individuals says I have a chance. And if I never finish a race, well at least I'll know and I'll have that much more respect for those guys, and I will have humbled myself. But until I try, I'll never know, and I can't NOT know at this point in my life and pursuit of getting everything I can out of my life.

Now that was quite a speech. :drinkers:

I hear ya man. If I felt like I could afford it I would get ahold of a rig and give it a try myself. I am competitive and I love motorsports. You never know, you may see me out there in the future.

wngrog · Apr 8, 2008

InDaShop said:
How does he know he cant win at Ghey Rock?

I said Crystal ball...so I am guessing. Van is a thinker and does not do anything on emotion (like your tirade below), just not his style. Everything is thought out and worried over. He weighed it out and the little white guy on his right shoulder won out and he is doing the practical thing. Nothing about me thinking he will win or lose, just a pure guess on his personality profile.

Nolen, I love you to death man. But the race hatin' is played out.

Race hatin? Are you KIDDING me? I love the races and the rock crawling comps. I have been going to them in person for years. I am a total groupy. Just because I make comments along the line of "get into comps and you won't have any jingle to wheel recreationally, that means I am a hater? WHAT THE ****??? Looks like I struck a nerve. :

I agree with your statements, alot of money and time for little actual wheeling.

Nah, tying up April to August for 4 events totalling 1 hour of actual wheeling is a great bang for your buck, if you want to do it, knock yourself out. I could care less. Really.

But I'm cool giving that up for now for the thrill of the race. Same as I'd give up driving every single day of the week to be able to have 3 hours behind the wheel each Sunday in the Nextel Cup. Thats the sense of your arguement to me. This isn't about the money or the wheeling. Its about doing something very few will ever try or attempt to do. Its about testing ourselves, our strengths, our weaknesses.
For me its not about money, fame, glory, whatever you want to make it out to be. For me its about seeing if I can be competive with guys that are "THAT LEVEL". Brian Shirley, Shannon Campbell, etc, etc, and so on and so forth, I'm talking about the current heros of offroad sports. And for ME, to have an opportunity just to take the field with such distinguished individuals says I have a chance. And if I never finish a race, well at least I'll know and I'll have that much more respect for those guys, and I will have humbled myself. But until I try, I'll never know, and I can't NOT know at this point in my life and pursuit of getting everything I can out of my life.

Seriously, get over it. If you are butthurt over something I said, I am sorry. I don't need anybody "E" pissed at me this week.

BamaTJ · Apr 8, 2008

You guys are funny, can't we all just get along and have fun. Wheelin is fun no matter if it is a comp or just for fun. I have run the KOH in Florette the last two years and there is nothing like the adrenaline rush it gives you, but it is hard on parts and costs a bunch. I think Van or Wyatt summed it up a few weeks ago with the comment that competing is never a good financial decision and you never come out ahead, but the same is true for wheeling. I don't understand the exclusivitiy comments though because anybody with a rig that passes tech and the cash can compete. I think what makes a competitor stand out from the rest is doing it year after year and making a name for yourself. I mean Shannon Campbell was not always the ****, he became it through hard work and lots of mistakes. But he has hung with it for a long ass time and now he is reaping the rewards. If I had a buggy that could pass tech I would either run just the close events for fun, or committ to it for 5+ years and try to be the best. I think that is the only way I could justify the cost, but everybody is different.

Cole · Apr 8, 2008

I just wana beat it like it Owes me Money. :spin:

vanguard · Apr 8, 2008

wngrog said:
Everything is thought out and worried over.

Haha, is it that obvious? ;D

wngrog · Apr 8, 2008

vanguard said:
Haha, is it that obvious? ;D

No, figuring out personalities is what I have done for 20+ years. Yours is just easy

P · Apr 9, 2008

Your all gay :flipoff1:

Its pretty simple really, your either in it cause you lust it, or your in it cause you can be. Either way its not practical nor will racing ( in anything ) ever make since. laughing1

I like to be the underdog and put myself out were everything is stacked against me to see how far I can push.. its a challenge and I dig it.

( plus its fun as hell )
Im not in it for fortune , fame or money, I just want to have a good time and push MY OWN envelope.

Im a **** ass in a single car garage with a 10K buggy and a ****ed up trailer behind a 1/2T pickup from the 90's you really think im worried about impressing anyone ? laughing1

My rig, my racing, and my attitude are just me. With imperfections and nothing fancy... but a damn good time waiting to happen pepper.gif

Ill have a sharpie with me, so if you want an autograph please dont be afraid to ask. molaugh

Goes either way if my junks there or not..

vanguard · Apr 9, 2008

P said:
Your all gay

P is also an astute observer of personalities. laughing1

blacksheep10 · Apr 9, 2008

wngrog said:
Seriously, get over it. If you are butthurt over something I said, I am sorry. I don't need anybody "E" pissed at me this week.

butthurt? I think he might have been explaining his position and justifying his actions to himself. I think someone else got butthurt over being called a "race hater" :flipoff1:

InDaShop · Apr 9, 2008

Nolen, I don't hate you or ePissed at you at all. Just stating that it seems everytime a open a thread about racing, you have a post in there, something to the effect of it (racing)doesn't make sense. I absolutely agree with you on it not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. Too bad those are not the factors used to decide to race. Though they are typically the reasons cited for not to race.
Hell lets talk about marriage for a second. For most it does not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. See what I mean? But for some dumbass reason we all do it at least once, and for the real gluttons for punishment they do it several times. (yes there is a joke in there pointed at you molaugh

).

I'm not doing this racing thing for anyone but me. Kelly riding "coat tails" or whatever, definately benefits him, but if it weren't for him, I wouldn't be able to race. And on Hardline, I'm still doing it for me, but like all of us here need some approval from our peers. All the support from the guys on this board has been over the top and completely heart warming. Hell if not for this board and Paul telling me I could do it, I would have never thought racing something like XRRA was capable by myself. But here we are on the eve of the East opener. My names of the list of racers, its cool, its surreal.

I appreciate your support and hope you guys are making the race, I look forward to meeting you and seeing if you are as short as they say you are :flipoff1:

. We'll have beers and laugh about beating the Dirty 30 car. molaugh

muchado · Apr 9, 2008

InDaShop said:
Nolen, I don't hate you or ePissed at you at all. Just stating that it seems everytime a open a thread about racing, you have a post in there, something to the effect of it (racing)doesn't make sense. I absolutely agree with you on it not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. Too bad those are not the factors used to decide to race. Though they are typically the reasons cited for not to race.
Hell lets talk about marriage for a second. For most it does not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. See what I mean? But for some dumbass reason we all do it at least once, and for the real gluttons for punishment they do it several times. (yes there is a joke in there pointed at you ).

I'm not doing this racing thing for anyone but me. Kelly riding "coat tails" or whatever, definately benefits him, but if it weren't for him, I wouldn't be able to race. And on Hardline, I'm still doing it for me, but like all of us here need some approval from our peers. All the support from the guys on this board has been over the top and completely heart warming. Hell if not for this board and Paul telling me I could do it, I would have never thought racing something like XRRA was capable by myself. But here we are on the eve of the East opener. My names of the list of racers, its cool, its surreal.

I appreciate your support and hope you guys are making the race, I look forward to meeting you and seeing if you are as short as they say you are . We'll have beers and laugh about beating the Dirty 30 car.

I just saw video of you drivin an old ford farm truck into a pond. Good luck :flipoff1:

InDaShop · Apr 9, 2008

MUCHADO said:
I just saw video of you drivin an old ford farm truck into a pond. Good luck

That truck could have made it, but it barely ran all day, it need needed a carb and a battery. And at the point that, that happened, we were pretty darn drunk, and it seemed like such a good idea. fugger!

P · Apr 9, 2008

InDaShop said:
Nolen, I don't hate you or ePissed at you at all. Just stating that it seems everytime a open a thread about racing, you have a post in there, something to the effect of it (racing)doesn't make sense. I absolutely agree with you on it not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. Too bad those are not the factors used to decide to race. Though they are typically the reasons cited for not to race.
Hell lets talk about marriage for a second. For most it does not making sense from an economic or financial standpoint, as well as time commitment standpoint. See what I mean? But for some dumbass reason we all do it at least once, and for the real gluttons for punishment they do it several times. (yes there is a joke in there pointed at you ).

I'm not doing this racing thing for anyone but me. Kelly riding "coat tails" or whatever, definately benefits him, but if it weren't for him, I wouldn't be able to race. And on Hardline, I'm still doing it for me, but like all of us here need some approval from our peers. All the support from the guys on this board has been over the top and completely heart warming. Hell if not for this board and Paul telling me I could do it, I would have never thought racing something like XRRA was capable by myself. But here we are on the eve of the East opener. My names of the list of racers, its cool, its surreal.

I appreciate your support and hope you guys are making the race, I look forward to meeting you and seeing if you are as short as they say you are . We'll have beers and laugh about beating the Dirty 30 car.

This is all true... except the Dirty Thirty Car... I dont own a "car" mine isnt nice enough to gain that kind of e respect ! laughing1

P · Apr 9, 2008

vanguard said:
P is also an astute observer of personalities. laughing1

Yes, yes I am thank you

laughing1

muchado · Apr 9, 2008

InDaShop said:
That truck could have made it, but it barely ran all day, it need needed a carb and a battery. And at the point that, that happened, we were pretty darn drunk, and it seemed like such a good idea. fugger!

sorry to hijack a thread I just figured it'd breakup the bickering :drinkers: