Chewing your boss' ass

Nuts · Jul 30, 2014

The only person at any company thats not replaceable is the owner. Everyone else no matter how important you think you are or how much money you think you make the company you can be replaced. If you can't see everything thats going on, and by working in the shop all day you can't possibly know 1/2 of the big picture, you need to step back and think thing through before you go bitching about anything. You're job may have gotten harder, but maybe it makes something else three times easier down the line, or the raise you think you should get might not have happened because the company is barley scrapeing by. If your complaining and nothing gets done about the problems you are worried about, remember there are 100 more issues that could be more important than a hose real or computer virus.

09zkrankin · Jul 30, 2014

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I have had to cut back on speaking my mind as it has landed me in the office a few times. the company I work for is awful about doing things the hard way. I work in a machine shop making replacement parts and things for out field techs. So when something is done that makes my job harder and takes me more time it is directly transferred down the line, affecting everyone. I understand that there are always going to be parts of the picture that those of us in day to day operations don't see, but I am also reminded of the saying I learned early on, " those who can, do. And those who can't become bosses". And that has shown true with my current employer

halcat · Jul 30, 2014

I need to remember not to hire none of you guys.

TacomaJD · Jul 30, 2014

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Lol, this got "dickish" real quick...lol

grcthird · Jul 30, 2014

Thanks for the advice, criticism, and personal experiences shared here.

patooyee said:
x2. If you think you can do it better put your money where your mouth is.

Running a business isn't as easy as you think though. You don't always get to do what you want and you have to deal with people who don't get the whole picture and then ****-talk you on the internet where they know you can't defend yourself, dragging your company / investment through the mud over petty disguntlements.

A coworker and myself ran this place for almost 2 years for an estate, all the while being threatened to be shut down if we didn't make a profit. We had to make do with old out of date (sometimes dangerous) equipment, VERY limited purchasing abilities, and dealt with personelle problems all the time. I was hauling scrap parts for cash to buy new parts from vendors we didn't have an account with. So yeah, I understand what it takes to make it work. I'm not trying to drag them down or talk **** about them. I want this place to grow and succeed, which is why I started this thread, to get input and ideas on how to deal with it.

jpony645 said:
I was wondering how all that was going, J. I noticed the wreckers and such. Did that company buy the shop or just the same people own both? I did have to drool on some of the new equipment that just got delivered when I was there last week though.

That company bought it. All that bright new shiny stuff, they put me in charge of lining them up with what all they need to update the shop, and to outfit 2 other locations. They have spent a fortune, so I think when I see stuff getting trashed, I take it as my responsibility to say something about it.

halcat · Jul 31, 2014

This makes a lot more sense than the way you started this thread. Some business have to run on a shoe string, like you have been doing for the last two years. It depends on the product you sell, who wants it, how much computation you have, and what the economy will allow people to par for your product. My wife and i are in the pipeline and erosion control business, and employ about fifty people. We do a lot of TDOT work and most of our work is government funded. Since the economy took a ****, we've had to cut a lot of frills from the way we do business. I am bidding work about forty percent less than I was in 2005 to win jobs. That relates to cuts in every part of my operation. If you were working for me before you would bitch about everything because the cuts effected you to. If you went to work now, you never had those frills so you accept things like they are. It's hard for a good employee to accept a bad boss, but the word boss gives them a lot of authority over the day to day operations, wether you agree or not. Sounds like they got the gold mine and you got the shaft. I tell my employees, who don't like the way I run my business, it's for sale. My .02

The Luke · Jul 31, 2014

grcthird said:
That company bought it. All that bright new shiny stuff, they put me in charge of lining them up with what all they need to update the shop, and to outfit 2 other locations. They have spent a fortune, so I think when I see stuff getting trashed, I take it as my responsibility to say something about it.

Document everything! Then present it to your boss. It looks better than you going in saying "WELL THEY DID THIS, THIS, AND THIS!!!"

5BrothersFabrication · Jul 31, 2014

Yeah.

85buggy · Jul 31, 2014

I am my boss ..... I chew my own ass constantly. I'm a dumbass retard
A lot of the time.

TacomaJD · Jul 31, 2014

halcat said:
This makes a lot more sense than the way you started this thread. Some business have to run on a shoe string, like you have been doing for the last two years. It depends on the product you sell, who wants it, how much computation you have, and what the economy will allow people to par for your product. My wife and i are in the pipeline and erosion control business, and employ about fifty people. We do a lot of TDOT work and most of our work is government funded. Since the economy took a ****, we've had to cut a lot of frills from the way we do business. I am bidding work about forty percent less than I was in 2005 to win jobs. That relates to cuts in every part of my operation. If you were working for me before you would bitch about everything because the cuts effected you to. If you went to work now, you never had those frills so you accept things like they are. It's hard for a good employee to accept a bad boss, but the word boss gives them a lot of authority over the day to day operations, wether you agree or not. Sounds like they got the gold mine and you got the shaft. I tell my employees, who don't like the way I run my business, it's for sale. My .02

Businesses are structured differently, from large to small, multiple levels of management, and so on. It would be ignorant for someone not to acknowledge the fact that a "boss" still needs to be kept in check to a certain degree. I'm not speaking more toward your business, because it sounds like a small operation. A small business owner can do what the hell he/she wants, and deal with the outcome themselves. That's a lot different than larger companies that employ hundreds and have multiple layers of management. It would be a completely ingnorant asusmption for one to think that just because someone landed a job being a "Boss" or manager/supervisor, that they are automatically right at calling all their shots. I've seen several managers, both low and high on totem pole, come through our manufacturing facility, and I've seen a lot of them "ran off" because so many folks were fed up with the way they tried running things. Luckily our company as a whole is tight knit and like minded enough, that it has never gotten too out of hand with ignorant bosses, but there has been a few failed attempts to shake things up a little too much.

drkelly · Aug 1, 2014

I wouldn't chew your boss out unless you are prepared to leave.

There are idiots in every position of every level of employment in the world.

I've been with the same company for over 12 yrs and seen a lot of changes. Upper management seems to change every few years, and therefore so do procedures and processes. You either adapt/do what you are told, or leave.