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ok I'm in the process of building my ubber 44.

Here's what i have already:
Detroit full carrier locker
4.88 gears
Alloy USA axles
Rock crusher diff guard, (actually its made by SOLID)
Install kit etc..
81 waggy dana 44 housing

Now my question is. I want this to be a 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern.

Later today I'm going to go look at a D44 out of a 79 Bronco. I have been told I need the bronco hubs to make it 5 on 5.5, but what spindles do I need???

Chevy??

Need answers ASAP. remember this is the tech section so keep your BS out please. :cool:


Also Dave at Northridge said Alloy or superior doesn't make outer axle seals for waggy 44's.... Anyone know who does or what can I use??
 
Joop,
You need Chevy small bearing spindles. And then you use Chevy backing plate and calipers & Ford rotors and internal locking hubs.

The easy way is to get a kit off Ebay for converting a Ford Dana 30/44 to disc breaks. Has everything you need in it already other than the wheel bearings. That is what I did when I build my HP44 for my TJ.

You don't NEED the outer seals as there are seals in the diff on a front axle. The outer seals just keep the crud out of your tubes.
 
theres 2 types of ford spindles. a wide five pattern and the standard dana 6 bolt pattern. you can use the wide five just chanke everything from the knuckle out. Or as Rick said use the chevy spindles with ford rotors. I happen to have a real purty set of the chevy spindles with new ford rotors and bearings on the shelf. Yours for $150.00
 
pokey said:
theres 2 types of ford spindles. a wide five pattern and the standard dana 6 bolt pattern. you can use the wide five just chanke everything from the knuckle out. Or as Rick said use the chevy spindles with ford rotors. I happen to have a real purty set of the chevy spindles with new ford rotors and bearings on the shelf. Yours for $150.00
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You wanna sell them today??? Where about do you live?
 
JOOP said:
You wanna sell them today??? Where about do you live?
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I am leaving for a dr appointment to find out who or whats standing on my innards in a few minutes. Providing they dont pack me off to the hospital I will be home later. I live over in the summit area (puyallup south hill) I will pm you the addy and #
 
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ok I'll give you a call. I only have today off for the next week or so. So tonigth would be perfect or later today. I'll go get my haircut to pass the time. :awesomework:
 
Other options to consider.

Warn industries sells all the part to go 5 on 5.5. I'm using thier stuff because it's sticks out less far than the ford hubs. Ford/Chevy/Waggie outer stub axles are much longer than the Warn hubs, so the axles stick out of the wheel much further. I like having the hub recessed further into the wheel. Plus, I've got a full 30 splined stub axle. Your 19 splined stub is both longer and thinner. In my opinion, weaker.

Another option, is to just weld up and redrill the 6 bolt hubs you've already got to a 5 bolt pattern. It's not expensive. Call Dean at Bent Metal Customs if you want, or I can drop them off tomorrow as I'm heading that way.
 
TreeClimber said:
Other options to consider.

Warn industries sells all the part to go 5 on 5.5. I'm using thier stuff because it's sticks out less far than the ford hubs. Ford/Chevy/Waggie outer stub axles are much longer than the Warn hubs, so the axles stick out of the wheel much further. I like having the hub recessed further into the wheel. Plus, I've got a full 30 splined stub axle. Your 19 splined stub is both longer and thinner. In my opinion, weaker.

Another option, is to just weld up and redrill the 6 bolt hubs you've already got to a 5 bolt pattern. It's not expensive. Call Dean at Bent Metal Customs if you want, or I can drop them off tomorrow as I'm heading that way.
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I don't have any of the hub stuff right now. My waggy axle I got was just the housing and outer knuckles.

I know the outer 19 splines are weaker but they are warrantied through Northridge4x4. So if they break I'll get a new one. :D
 
Hey Jim let me think about your offer a bit. I'm going to go take a look at this 44 right now.
 
JOOP said:
Hey Jim let me think about your offer a bit. I'm going to go take a look at this 44 right now.
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Thats fine. give me a call if you want to come out. just to clarify I have the hub assem.with bearings rotors and spindles. you would still need locking hubs, chev, caliper mt and calipers. I have some full time slugs and caps if you dont want to use locking hubs.

I also have avail. knuckles out ford stuff complete to locking hubs. this is the wide 5 style spindle and is a used setup that I havent even cleaned up as yet. $150.
 
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What about new wheels?
Thats what I did, $42/each for 6 lug black steelies.
Much cheaper than all new outers, save that money for hi steer or other cool stuff.
 
Shopping List:

GM/FSJ knuckles (sounds like you already have)
GM/FSJ Caliper Brackets
GM/FSJ Calipers
GM/FSJ Small Bearing Spindles (these are a touch longer than a very similar Ford spindle, make sure you get the correct ones)
GM/FSJ Stub-Shafts (sounds like you have them)
Ford F150/Bronco Hubs and Rotors, TTB stuff works as well.
What ever 19-spline locking hubs you want to use.

Bolt and go.


You can piece it together from the junk yard/pull-a-part pretty cheap, and the hub/rotors are pretty cheap new from the parts house. Sounds like Pookys got the quick hook up for a good 1/2 of it, all you would need are calipers and stands.
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