DIY Bead lock rings

[XtrmTJ]

Big time diff in weight ! Steel weighs ALOT more then alum !

 

[MIG'DHORSE]

Weight...

more unsprung = good. especially if you have the axles to handle the bonus weight vs. torque.

 

[Not Jobless]

more unsprung = good. especially if you have the axles to handle the bonus weight vs. torque.

Adding unnecessary unsprung weight is not good.

less weight equals less broken parts, an easier time overcoming gravity and you require less HP/TQ.

Steel is cheaper...

 

[crash2]

Big time diff in weight ! Steel weighs ALOT more then alum !

Are you sure?

Compare a 15" steel TR vs an alum. TR wheel. I recall picking both up and the alum. was heavier....

 

[jeepmauler]

Are you sure?

Compare a 15" steel TR vs an alum. TR wheel. I recall picking both up and the alum. was heavier....

Wrong

EDIT: The above was written by "someone else" under my user name:looser: :flipoff:

 

[Binder]

believe it or not it exists. i believe the process is Explosive, never seen it done but we have these bymetallic strips as the superstructure of some ships are alum welded to a steel hull. due to corrosion we are always replacing portions of them.

also not gonna work in this application.:fawkdancesmiley:

If anyone else wrote this I would say they were full of sh*t.
Where can I read more about this?

 

[Not Jobless]

Wrong

EDIT: The above was written by "someone else" under my user name:looser: :flipoff:

That women of yours is nothing but trouble :fawkdancesmiley:

 

[Money Mark]

That women of yours is nothing but trouble :fawkdancesmiley:

Would that be jeepmaul-HER? :haha:

 

[MIG'DHORSE]

Adding unnecessary unsprung weight is not good.

less weight equals less broken parts, an easier time overcoming gravity and you require less HP/TQ.

Steel is cheaper...

it makes sense, as the more weight you have on the ends of your axle shafts, the more intertia, which leads to more breakage, and more HP required to light 'em up. comp guys DO fill their tires with water, though... but only when necessary. i guess it comes down to preferance. do you like blowing diffs apart or no?

 

[JPFREAK]

I'll throw this into the steel vs. aluminum debate.

On my race rig I went through two different sets of steel wheels with DIY beadlocks:
The first set was a lighter basset wheel -I bent the wheel shell.

The second set was built with cragar soft 8 wheels (much heavier) -I bent the centers.

Well, so much for trying to "save money".

After briefly trying to run Aluminum without a beadlock, I ordered a second set of Champions.

I have run a set of Champion beadlocks on my trail rig since ~'98. Never a hicup.

If/when I decide to go to 17s on the trail rig I'd be tempted to run a set of the TR HDs, they look good.

 

[jeepmauler]

True wheel weights

Steel 15x8 5-4.5 = 28.5#
Alum. 15x8 5-4.5 = 18.0#

Steel 17x9 8-6.5= 39.0#
Alum. 17x9 8-6.5=25.5#

Trailready H.D. Alum. 30.5#

This is just the wheel No ring or hardware or valve stem.Weighed this AM on our digital shipping scale.

 

[boxboy]

True wheel weights

Steel 15x8 5-4.5 = 28.5#
Alum. 15x8 5-4.5 = 18.0#

Steel 17x9 8-6.5= 39.0#
Alum. 17x9 8-6.5=25.5#

Trailready H.D. Alum. 30.5#

This is just the wheel No ring or hardware or valve stem.Weighed this AM on our digital shipping scale.

Thanks! I am very interested in the HD17 :awesomework:

 

[Toyotanut]

If anyone else wrote this I would say they were full of sh*t.
Where can I read more about this?

thread hijack
Saw a thread on tv about this, believe it was Modern Marvels. Pretty cool sh*t if you ask me. Able to weld different types of materials together using explosives.

 

[KarlVP]

thread hijack
Saw a thread on tv about this, believe it was Modern Marvels. Pretty cool sh*t if you ask me. Able to weld different types of materials together using explosives.

I saw that too. Explosion welding is fawesome.

 

[81toy]

After reading this thread and looking at some of the prices for 17" DIY beadlocks I can't help but think it would be easier and in some cases cheaper to buy a beadlock from champion or somewhere else. I found a price for champions and they were $250 i think for a steel 17x8 or 17x9 toy with 3.5 bs. Oh, and considering the prices for the DIY kits range from $150+ to $200 (plus the cost of the wheels). So, I am just a little curious if I am missing something here, such as some sort of advantage to a DIY kit. :eeek:

according to the champion site you can also get custom bs.

 

[boxboy]

After reading this thread and looking at some of the prices for 17" DIY beadlocks I can't help but think it would be easier and in some cases cheaper to buy a beadlock from champion or somewhere else. I found a price for champions and they were $250 i think for a steel 17x8 or 17x9 toy with 3.5 bs. Oh, and considering the prices for the DIY kits range from $150+ to $200 (plus the cost of the wheels). So, I am just a little curious if I am missing something here, such as some sort of advantage to a DIY kit. :eeek:

according to the champion site you can also get custom bs.

Yeah I have found you can buy bead lock wheels for less money then to build your own aluminum bead lock wheels.

 

[stealthrunner1]

if ya want DIY beadlocks get hold of "slicknic" he does DIY beadlocks!!:awesomework: and he is one of our buddys...:beer:

 

[82toyomud]

Get some cool,second hand aluminum wheels and bring'em to TR and we'll beadlock'em......200.00 per wheel complete with everything.I'll turn 'em around next day.

Sometimes cash talks and the owner listens but thats up to him soooo.....


IIRC youre eight lug......my wheels and tires would bolt right on yer rig.....$1700.00

Do you guys do any post weld heat treat on them?

 

[jeepmauler]

Nope....no need....our process of attachment is overkill.......you will not pull a bolt flange out of a wheel nor will you have a failure do to "heat treatment" issues.

If a person is concerned.....get a set of our HD's........no welding.....just cast

 

[Bunk1]

if ya want DIY beadlocks get hold of "Jeepmauler" he does beadlocks!!:awesomework: :beer:

Fixed. 17hd tr's are the shizzy