Ford 6.0 gurus?

bbone · Apr 12, 2016

clemsonjeep said:
Surely I'll get hammered for this, but here goes. The 6.0's were not bad motors...and the trucks they're in are by far the best on the road in just about every aspect. In any case...if you can drive a 6.0 with some common sense and at the bare minimum with a set of gauges to keep an eye on things. You shouldn't ever have an issue.

Now with that being said I understand that a lot of the early trucks had issues with the casting sand in the motors leading to clogs in the oil cooler...which then led to issues with the EGR coolers. Guess what...just about every new vehicle with a new drivetrain has issues the first couple years. Some worse than others of course. When you're talking about a $40,000 truck of course things are more expensive to fix...just part of the game.

so my 04 with less than 40k miles, 1000% stock, HG, warped head, 2 turbos, FICM, and another HG AND a new HEAD....ALL stock...ill stop there...I owned it till 250k...shoot me in the face and **** FORDS

patooyee · Apr 12, 2016

clemsonjeep said:
Surely I'll get hammered for this, but here goes. The 6.0's were not bad motors...and the trucks they're in are by far the best on the road in just about every aspect. In any case...if you can drive a 6.0 with some common sense and at the bare minimum with a set of gauges to keep an eye on things. You shouldn't ever have an issue.

Now with that being said I understand that a lot of the early trucks had issues with the casting sand in the motors leading to clogs in the oil cooler...which then led to issues with the EGR coolers. Guess what...just about every new vehicle with a new drivetrain has issues the first couple years. Some worse than others of course. When you're talking about a $40,000 truck of course things are more expensive to fix...just part of the game.

I believe most of the bad wrap the 6.0's got was because people were so use to the 7.3 and being able to do whatever they wanted to them that when they got their hands on the 6.0's they threw a bunch of bolt on power adders at them, lifted them, and hooked them to the biggest load they could and then came home crying when they blew up their new truck.

Seriously...have you ever considered how many 6.0's are still in use by local governments and ambulance services. Those things get rode hard, idle most of the day and are still in use. Any business with several of them in service would surely cut losses before they had continuing issues with their entire fleet. Another way to think about it...If the internet didn't exist...how many issues would you have heard about?

I left Ford before everyone seemed to figure them out. But I also think that a lot of issues stemmed from technician ignorance. There was so much new **** on those engines compared to the 7.3's. A lot of it had my technicians scratching their heads. I started working for Ford right as the 6.0's came out and left right as they were being replaced. I would not say that we had them at all figured out by the time I left. I often felt like, once a technician laid hands on a 6.0, it would never be the same again, truck ruined. Of course, technicians never make mistakes, so if the truck continues coming back for problems it's Ford's fault. We "warranteed" lots of parts on perfectly good trucks just to replace waranteed parts on customer trucks that the techs didn't put on right and ruined in the process, or that they replaced once without fixing the root cause and got ruined again. I owned one of the rare problem-free 6.0's until about 70,000 miles. Never turned a wrench on it. But if you look up the paperwork on that truck just about every engine component had been replaced under warranty, turbo, heads, EGR, etc. It became a joke within the department about how everyone knew my VIN number for when they needed to fix a mistake on another truck. There were other trucks on our lot that had parts replaced on paper before they were ever even test-drove. It was just a ****ing warranty free-for-all trying to avoid paying for parts while they learned about the engines.

I think even Ford was learning about them, too. They would put out TSB's one day that would get revised the next and then superseded a week later. A tech would read a TSB, perform the repair, and the truck would be back a week later with the same problem. He would perform the TSB again not realizing that it had totally changed in that week. We would replace the part 3 or 5 times before someone would happen across the superseded or new TSB by chance. Most of the techs only knew how to use the computers to watch porn. They were riddled with viruses as a result. It took the computers an hour to boot up and they were so slow once they were started they were basically not useable. Asking a tech stay up to date on all the TSB's under those conditions was asking too much, IMO.

clemsonjeep · Apr 12, 2016

bbone said:
so my 04 with less than 40k miles, 1000% stock, HG, warped head, 2 turbos, FICM, and another HG AND a new HEAD....ALL stock...ill stop there...I owned it till 250k...shoot me in the face and **** FORDS

Yep...sadly you got one of those trucks.

clemsonjeep · Apr 12, 2016

Very good points patooyee...that's the stuff you don't hear about.

patooyee · Apr 12, 2016

clemsonjeep said:
Yep...sadly you got one of those trucks.

I was his service advisor during much of his ownership. I felt so bad for him.

gottagofast · Apr 12, 2016

Would you buy a gun that had a 10% chance of blowing up n killing you because you got a a great deal on it?
Soooo a truck that only has a 40% chance of being a POS money pit is a good idea?

Neal3000 · Apr 12, 2016

I've never understood how you can buy motorcraft upgraded parts to fix certain 6.0 issues but Ford never issued a recall to fix said problems, pretty shitty.

bbone · Apr 12, 2016

patooyee said:
I was his service advisor during much of his ownership. I felt so bad for him.

We had a wheelin trip to KY...Harlan...JJ had a shortbed diesel...I had my 6.0 Excursion...everytime he got fuel (200miles), I added 2 gallons of coolant/water....thanks Ford

patooyee · Apr 12, 2016

bbone said:
We had a wheelin trip to KY...Harlan...JJ had a shortbed diesel...I had my 6.0 Excursion...everytime he got fuel (200miles), I added 2 gallons of coolant/water....thanks Ford

I was almost certain that Jimmy and I were going to have to end up hauling you at least some of that trip.

muleskinner · Apr 13, 2016

Powerstroke help.com guy is out of Buford Ga he knows his stuff on the fords from the early years to the latest models check him out

Badride · Apr 13, 2016

muleskinner said:
Powerstroke help.com guy is out of Buford Ga he knows his stuff on the fords from the early years to the latest models check him out

What is his name? Live ten minutes up the road. Never heard of him......

muleskinner · Apr 13, 2016

I can't remember get on you tube and type in powerstroke help.com it will bring him up a lot of good info about the ford trucks

https://youtu.be/8o2LGuzl0go

kmcminn · Apr 13, 2016

I'm interested in seeing the truck cause 5k is cheap.

gottagofast · Apr 14, 2016

Power stroke help .com guy is a runnin joke among those who really know strokes.
He does have a few things right but he's got some total BS too.

If you want to actually learn get on the major forums... Last I looked Powerstrokenation had died out and lost the guru's to powerstrokearmy but there is a LOT of knowledge available on both.

The Luke · Apr 14, 2016

Got it fixed about 95%. Had a couple spool valves backwards. While we had it apart we were looking everything over and found one of the Teflon rings on the new stand pipes overlaps itself. Before we reassembled, we called the company and the swear up and down that it's normal. Put it all back together. Runs great, except now it doesn't like to start when it's hot. Which means it's leaking oil internally. We're going to try swapping out that pipe and see if that fixes it. The way the o ring sits just doesn't make sense to me.