Got a talkin to by "the man" for illegal wheeling today.

KarlVP · Jan 22, 2011

We were up wheeling Denny Creek in the snow. At the top we were fooling around on the big pile of snow that the plows stack up. We were driving on it and over it and around it, just making new lines and having a good time.

Anywho, a USFS Leo stopped me (he was on foot and walked over to me) and told me that I was breaking the law by driving in the drainage ditch. I did not know that I was doing anything wrong. We were on snow 100% of the time never even in danger of digging down to dirt.

I stopped what I was doing, and got back on the snow over the paved road. After talking to him, he said that we could do whatever we wanted as long as we were over the paved road. Driving in the ditches or up the side of the hill, even though you are on the snow, is illegal.

Just educating folks so you don't get in trouble.

Happy wheeling. :awesomework:

Ty. · Jan 22, 2011

You were just his bitch for the night.

Not Jobless · Jan 22, 2011

Just change the thread title to:

Karla got owned

:flipoff:

mark · Jan 22, 2011

KarlVP said:
Driving in the ditches or up the side of the hill, even though you are on the snow, is illegal.

just curious if he sited a regulation that he was referencing. Not to say he's full of BS, just to it can be verified.

Seems a little pick/anal for just playing on a snow berm.

KarlVP · Jan 22, 2011

mark said:
just curious if he sited a regulation that he was referencing. Not to say he's full of BS, just to it can be verified.

Seems a little pick/anal for just playing on a snow berm.

I didn't argue with him, I just complied with his wishes.

I also thought it was ridiculous. If I were in the mud tearing **** up, or driving up the side of the hill in the mud, (which I would not do), I would expect a ticket. But driving on 8 feet of snow? :booo:

Binder · Jan 22, 2011

The issue with driving on snow, off trail is that others may follow your tracks as the snow melts. Eventually someone will follow the tracks and be in dirt.........

KarlVP · Jan 22, 2011

Binder said:
The issue with driving on snow, off trail is that others may follow your tracks as the snow melts. Eventually someone will follow the tracks and be in dirt.........

I understand where he has coming from.

I did not get a ticket.

I stand educated. :awesomework:

I still think it was bullshit. Snow melts.

Will I do it again? Not so much.

Boonie Buster · Jan 22, 2011

Binder said:
The issue with driving on snow, off trail is that others may follow your tracks as the snow melts. Eventually someone will follow the tracks and be in dirt.........

So by that logic, snowmobiles should do the same. :stirpot: :corn:

I don't need snow to drive through a meadow! :masturbanana[1]:

Money Mark · Jan 22, 2011

KarlVP said:
(he was on foot and walked over to me)

Was he wearing snow shoes? I'm a little confused......How did he get there?

Money Mark · Jan 22, 2011

Boonie Buster said:
So by that logic...

There's your problem. Can't logic this stuff out. I thought we already knew that......where have you been?

You did the right thing Karl. Question but obey.......live to fight another day. Almost getting a ticket, is not getting a ticket.

Boonie Buster · Jan 22, 2011

What binder's talking about is exactly what's happened to an undisclosed local alpine meadow.

As quoted to me by a DNR/Forest Ranger years ago:
During the snow people would drive out into the "clearing" (which is an alpine meadow, meaning everything grows twice as slow) and then as the snow started to melt people would still go out into the meadow to cut cookies and dig to dirt and tear up the meadow, not realizing it was a meadow.

KarlVP · Jan 23, 2011

Money Mark said:
Was he wearing snow shoes? I'm a little confused......How did he get there?

Precisely. I saw him coming, but thought he was part of the snowshoeing crowd that had stopped to watch us play.

chainsaw · Jan 23, 2011

Money Mark said:
There's your problem. Can't logic this stuff out. I thought we already knew that......where have you been?

You did the right thing Karl. Question but obey.......live to fight another day. Almost getting a ticket, is not getting a ticket.

Close to what I was gonna say only betterer, so....:awesomework:

Binder · Jan 23, 2011

Boonie Buster said:
So by that logic, snowmobiles should do the same. :stirpot: :corn:

It's been a issue with the wheelers following snomobile tracks too but not that big of a issue. It's only a issue for that one week when wheeling first opens after sled season. Usually the sled tracks are melted off or snowed over by then.

dirtygoat · Jan 23, 2011

Binder said:
It's been a issue with the wheelers following snomobile tracks too but not that big of a issue. It's only a issue for that one week when wheeling first opens after sled season. Usually the sled tracks are melted off or snowed over by then.

Snowmobiles should have to stay on the trail just like everyone else...

"S"-box · Jan 23, 2011

pics or it didn't happen, HOT Karl!:flipoff::flipoff:

mainly wanna see some flop pics to laugh at:stirpot::stirpot:

Money Mark · Jan 23, 2011

dirtygoat said:
Snowmobiles should have to stay on the trail just like everyone else...

You're using logic to sort out the details. Not gonna work.:eeek:

I would say that the most logical point

to take from this thread is that Denny Creek is not the best place to accommodate the typical wheelers tendances.......screwing around on stuff on or nearby the "trail". And that unlike other popular snow wheeling roads/sites, Denny Creek is popular with a variety of motorized and non-motorized activities. This higher activity rate make it necessary to have a greater enforcement presence. What I'm getting at is; what happened to Karl should have happened. It was designed to happen that way.

I see this as an example of the system working. Isn't that what we're all crying for? I know I am.:awesomework:

Money Mark · Jan 23, 2011

KarlVP said:
Just educating folks so you don't get in trouble.

Happy wheeling. :awesomework:

.....and Karl is "paying it forward" to the rest of us.

Dis **** works dog

JOOP · Jan 23, 2011

KarlVP said:
Will I do it again? Not so much.

:haha: Just say not so much as anyone can see me.

Outlaw wheeling.. It's coming

dirtygoat · Jan 23, 2011

Money Mark said:
You're using logic to sort out the details. Not gonna work.:eeek:

I would say that the most logical pointto take from this thread is that Denny Creek is not the best place to accommodate the typical wheelers tendances.......screwing around on stuff on or nearby the "trail". And that unlike other popular snow wheeling roads/sites, Denny Creek is popular with a variety of motorized and non-motorized activities. This higher activity rate make it necessary to have a greater enforcement presence. What I'm getting at is; what happened to Karl should have happened. It was designed to happen that way.

I see this as an example of the system working. Isn't that what we're all crying for? I know I am.:awesomework: