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KarlVP

KarlVP

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Every time I go wheeling, I get crap in my beads. I used to have 10" rims, bought some 8" wheels and figured it would "solve" the problem. It did make it better, but I still have issues.

On the trail I usually run between 8 to 15psi depending on where I am. I'm willing to bet if I filled them up to 60psi I would still have issues of crap getting in the bead.

I have heard of people supergluing the tires to the rims, but I don't want to destroy my tires.

Is there anything I can do, short of getting beadlocks, to alleviate this problem? I'm tired of using my hi-lift to unseat tire beads and the hour out of my day it takes to do all four.
 
Jobless said:
Beadlocks are about your only solution.

Glueing the tire to the rim only helps keep the air in...not debris out.
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I have to agree with Brad on the bead locks.Call Bobby Long if you want a weld on bead lock set.He sells it with hardwhere and rings.I think its like 340-380$ for everything.
 
KarlVP said:
I don't want to have to deal with the law. My rig is my Daily driver.
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I guess you are screwed then...deal with the law or deal with crap in your beads.

There are beadlocks out there that are DOT approved like the Staun...I think.
 
if you add beadlocks to a DOT compliant rim it is still DOT compliant...

ill sell you my tires and some toy beadlocks and you can find someone to trade the beadlocks for some you can use with my tires.:wtf:

you could always try the inflatable internal beadlocks like jantz runs.

i found the tires i want only they come with some toy beadlocks.
http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31868
 
Karl,

It's probably a tire issue, more than a wheel issue

I've ran Boggers at 3 and 4 psi, (35/15.5/15s) on 10s and never had an issue. Ran Swampers at 7 and 8 psi (33/12.5/15s) on 8s and never had an issue.

Then I bought my Krawlers (37/12.5/17s) on 8.5 Allied wheels (non-beadlocks). Couldn't keep the crap out!! Even at 10 and 12 psi. At Moab, I talked directly to the Allied Beadlock guy (have his card at home) and he says that there is only really one wheel manufacture who builds the outers of steel wheels. Everybody buys their shells, and then manufactures the centers themselfs, chromes them and sell them.... So the Shell of the wheel is universally the same on all steel wheels.... Hence, it's the tire that becomes the variable. My thought is that the Krawler has such a puncture resistant sidewall, that when a stump or rock or mud or whatever pushes against it, the sidewall litterally moves back from the bead lip, and -farkkkkkkkkkkkkk- then the crap gets in.

I solved it with beadlocks. Bought some Walkers, and run the Krawlers between 3 and 6 (depending on terrain) and have not have a problem ever.

Still have my 17 in steelies. Savin' em for the upcoming project rig. Going to beadlock them too, in time.

Tony
 
KarlVP said:
I don't want to have to deal with the law. My rig is my Daily driver.
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and this is an overrated concern... I have talked to several cops about this and never has any cop given a ticket for non-dot wheels (at least the one I talked to)
 
A cheap method that alot of old timers used is to put screws through the rim lip and into the tires to hold it into place. A really inexpensive "bead lock". Never heard of anyone having problems with it. Most people are too much of a ***** to do it though..."don't wanna hurt my purdy tires".

Ahem, I got beadlocks before I had to hurt my "purdy" tires:flipoff:
 
I get mud, wood , and rocks. In my bead's. I dont run beadlocks , yet. You either have to deal with it or step up and get you some weld on BL's
 
TreeClimber said:
and this is an overrated concern... I have talked to several cops about this and never has any cop given a ticket for non-dot wheels (at least the one I talked to)
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That'd be nice if they were letting up on enforcement of that stupid law.

WARNING:SARCASM ALERT...Let's see, we'll give out tickets to those people with beadlocks even though those rims are safer than the rest of the conventional rims on the road due to the fact that your tire won't come off the bead if you get a flat.

Yah, that makes alot of sense doesn't it!:wtf:

All this because of some federal burst test standard.:mad:

I used flat black rings and they blend right in with the tires. If you paint them red or yellow they will get noticed. Lack of mudflaps and broken tailights etc will likely get you pulled over instead of the locks. They may just add in the locks into the ticket though.

PS THank god poser fake beadlock wheels have gotten sort of popular.
 
Blame the wheel manufacturers, not the laws. The laws state a wheel needs to be DOT approved. It's been that way since dirt was formed. But the wheel mfrs. don't want to got to the expense of getting that approval. They'd rather let you deal with that risk and just put some fine print on their packaging. We'll eventually see more and more get approvals as time goes by, but until then you gotta make a choice.
On a side note, with all the simulated beadlocks that ARE DOT approved (and some of them are very hard to tell if they are BLs or not), I would think it's pretty hard for the police to determine whether a wheel is approved or not. Who knows, though. It's just not on their radar right now. That could all change tomorrow.
 
Tankota said:
A cheap method that alot of old timers used is to put screws through the rim lip and into the tires to hold it into place. A really inexpensive "bead lock". Never heard of anyone having problems with it. Most people are too much of a ***** to do it though..."don't wanna hurt my purdy tires".

Ahem, I got beadlocks before I had to hurt my "purdy" tires:flipoff:
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It works! Screws worked for me. Based on a Pirate4X4 post that I saw back in 1996 or 1997 PLUS my dad's old school drag racing stories... I drove screws into my rims and I ran my 33" Super Swampers for many years with screws and Viking Seal tire sealant in them. I got large chunks of stumps/logs/debris crammed into the beads but as soon as the tire sealant found the hole all was good.

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In this picture you can see a chunk of a log (lower left) that I hit really hard a few years ago. It's sandwiched between the rim and bead.
Between the screws and the Viking Seal Tire Sealant plugging any air leaks between the bead and rim... I have yet to loose a bead or even get a flat tire!

I ran that setup for 10+ years and I still have the tires and rims stored away for back-ups or a future project since I upgraded to 36" Super Swampers and Staun's.

Poor man's beadlocks rule! :redneck:
 

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