yes. Same ram
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yes. Same ram
Binder
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As long as the ram and mounts are physically strong enough to do 100% of the steering..
Lincolnlock
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The valve you have linked would be retarded. I have a 200cc per/rev valve with just over 1 turn lock to lock right and 3/4 turn lock to lock left. The valve linked is 778 cc per/rev. You couldn't touch the steering wheel either way without it going to full lock.
As for power beyond port valves... just stay away from them unless you are using rear steer. I've used them before but they are super quirky. Also, you will need to run a separate hose from the power beyond port to the reservoir. The fluid gets frothy real quick with these valves.
Lincolnlock
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This is the valve that would give you about 1 turn lock to lock. Danfoss valves have a bunch more options for sizing.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009021420465068&item=9-1884&catname=hydraulic
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009021420465068&item=9-1884&catname=hydraulic
OK next question. I plan on using my stock power steering pump as the pump. Pat told me if you take the pressure valve out, stretch the spring, then drill the hole one size over it works fine.
So what input flow rate should I be looking for? I see some steering valves for 2-4 GPM and 4-8 GPM, same size 7.3 CU IN..
So what input flow rate should I be looking for? I see some steering valves for 2-4 GPM and 4-8 GPM, same size 7.3 CU IN..
benw1
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That was directed at Binder. With his cylinders what I said is accurate.
You really need to read the hydraulic steering bible on Pirate. Read it a few times and when you think you understand it, read it again. ALL this info is in there.
Binder
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I didn't read that as a recommendation to use that valve but as a compairison size wise....Who would want to use a one turn lock to lock for anything?
Lincolnlock
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It looks as though 778cc per/rev or 47.5ci per/rev is not making much sense to you. That is 393% more flow than a 9.7ci valve. It would probably be best suited for a front end loader with dual cylinders.
Binder- if you
want I have .pdf files for danfoss and charlynn steering valves that will break down the part number so you'll be able to tell exactly what the specs are when you are shopping. I got my last valve brand new from flea bay for $100. It seems as though the people selling them don't know how to list them, or even what they are selling.
Joop- this link will help. Only drill one size up at a time. If you go to far the pump won't last long. (overheat)
http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/powersteering.html
tomsbrokeagain
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Thats the one.
But also read part one-
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-Hydro_Steering/index1.html
and part three-
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-Hydro_Steering/index3.html
benw1
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LOL, Binder has dual cylinders dumbass.
Lincolnlock
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I like you. Even though you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about you still maintain that delivering enough fluid for dual 4" cylinders is acceptable for dual 2x7's. The entertainment value is high on this one. Thanks.
benw1
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Damn you're dense. Let me spell it out for you.
I said:
The volume of a 2x8x.75 cylinder is 25.133 cubic inches on one side of the piston and 21.598 on the rod side of the piston. So to move a dual cylinder system from lock to lock it requires 46.731 cubic inches of fluid displacement. That is why I said the 47.5 cubic inch vavle would give one turn lock to lock. You are right, I was wrong it is actually .984 turn lock to lock. I made that statement as a counter point to this post that Binder made:
It was not a recommendation, it was to demonstrate that there are HUGE valves commonly available so he should have no problem finding a valve that is faster than his current one. Let me know if I need to spoon feed you anything else.
I said:
The volume of a 2x8x.75 cylinder is 25.133 cubic inches on one side of the piston and 21.598 on the rod side of the piston. So to move a dual cylinder system from lock to lock it requires 46.731 cubic inches of fluid displacement. That is why I said the 47.5 cubic inch vavle would give one turn lock to lock. You are right, I was wrong it is actually .984 turn lock to lock. I made that statement as a counter point to this post that Binder made:
It was not a recommendation, it was to demonstrate that there are HUGE valves commonly available so he should have no problem finding a valve that is faster than his current one. Let me know if I need to spoon feed you anything else.
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