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PBB and CRAWL?

i thought My subscriptiOn had Ran out or somEthing, and then i was surpRised to find Issue 14 in the mail just the other day. everyone knows Crawl puts out the best rocKcrawling mag, and in realitY, tim can run it however he wants, B/c there really isnt any comPetition in that specific market (to my knowledge at least). I pay for my subsCription, i receive the mag, i am pleaSed. there are no other factors to consider as far as Im concerned. i expect crawl to meet a standard that any prudent company should strive to achieve, and i can't ask for more than that.
 
Chip@WhiteRhino said:
i thought My subscriptiOn had Ran out or somEthing, and then i was surpRised to find Issue 14 in the mail just the other day. everyone knows Crawl puts out the best rocKcrawling mag, and in realitY, tim can run it however he wants, B/c there really isnt any comPetition in that specific market (to my knowledge at least). I pay for my subsCription, i receive the mag, i am pleaSed. there are no other factors to consider as far as Im concerned. i expect crawl to meet a standard that any prudent company should strive to achieve, and i can't ask for more than that.

Love your subtle message hidden in there!
 
wngrog said:
Did that East Coast based 4 low magaqzine make it? It was a nice rag first time I saw it.
I subscribe to that one too. They seem to be getting their magazines out on time but I don't plan to resubscribe even though I was in it. (stealth gloat ;D )

The writing isn't as good as crawl, the pictures aren't as good as crawl, and a lot of the features are not as hardcore as crawl. If you can make in a rubicon on 35's without fear of rolling, I don't care about your sissy trail run. People wouldn't care if crawl was late if the magazine sucked. A big part of the problem is managing expectations. If you say it will get there on 4/1 and it arrives on 4/15 I'm pissed. If you say it will get there on 4/20 and it arrives on 4/15 I'm happy.

I write/design software for a living and managing expectations is huge for me. I remember early in my career I would say, "One more week" for three weeks in a row. I nearly got fired. Cavey will get the hang of it soon.
 
I only saw one low-range mag and it had some awesome comp coverage from Aaron Campbell, other than that it was pretty boring. Still WAY better than primedia mags though.
 
vanguard said:
Cavey will get the hang of it soon.

You think so? Call me :indianajones: but this has been going on for years, and two magazines. If hes going to catch on it shoulda happened by now.

You'd think the reprecussions of one magazine getting driven in the ground and all blame placed on everyone around Cavey by Cavey would be a tell tale. I'm not saying he's the sole perp. here, just saying look at the facts as the whole world sees them.

XOM everyone sings the praises,"Best Mag eva!" Had deadline issues, went belly up in a widely publisized implosion mainly telegraphed to the masses by Cavey.
Crawl rises like a phoenix from the still smoldering ashes of XOM with most of the same staff. The masses once again hail "Best Mag eva'!" The new mag has deadline issues, now compounded by delivery issues. All of which are manageable with clear communication to their readership. However in the fame of XOM, and now Crawl, Cavey continues with the bullshit to the Crawl readership.

I hail Crawl as the best mag currently out there, but aside from the mag once it gets in my hand everything else sucks. I could have bought the current issue of the rack 2 weeks before it finally hit my mailbox. I didn't, I waited for MY copy.

Cavey, what incentive does the Average Joe have to subscribe to Crawl vs. picking up at the newsstand? I know that by subscribing I am directly supporting the offroad community, but the Average Joe that isn't as "IN TO" this ****??? Wheres the hook?

I'm all but through with Crawl as a subscriber. I dont even wait for it anymore or rush home to check the mailbox. Zero anticipation nor care for the next issue. Glad to have it when it comes. I'll lift it at the grocery store at least then I know when its coming.
 
Simple Solution. I just got the JUNE issue of Petersen's. So it's early. Label Crawl's next one July, deliver in May or June, all good.
 
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
Cavey, what incentive do you have to ever feature my rig in your magazine now that I have taken a dump in your Wheeties BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

Fixed it for you ''rant-boy'' molaugh
 
[quote InDaShop] BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
Cavey, what incentive do you have to ever feature my rig in your magazine now that I have taken a dump in your Wheeties BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
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wngrog said:
Fixed it for you ''rant-boy'' molaugh

You suck at quoting :flipoff1:
 
I agree with Wyatt here. I sent in a subscription to CRAWL and Low Range at the same time and got the same result, 1 issue. That did it for me, if I want one I'll just pick it up at the store. I love the mag, but I won't put up with the BS. As for pirate, I just let my subscription run out last wk, I like the tech over there but to hell with all that BS-Its far from the only or the best board out there. Unlike some people I don't feel the need to have 2k posts and be Efamous.
 
wngrog said:
Damn man, I had to delete that rant on my mobile while driving 80 down the highway.....so I missed a bracket?? :flipoff1:
You got me, I just came back to this thread. Fawk I'm a long winded typing douchbag. I skipped reading it myself. :dunno:
 
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