Binder
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I don't completely agree with this..You can make it perform the same right up until the engine is turned off.
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I don't completely agree with this..You can make it perform the same right up until the engine is turned off.
Clark
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x2:awesomework:
Clark
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I hope i can make mine perform like that.:redneck: I don't actually have a working full hydro steering so i am by no means an expert.
CHOP SHOP
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Joop, is your ram new or used?
On the stomper I could drive it fine. At hiway speed it is a little quicker (truck is at a higher rpm). but listen close.
Does this "delay" you are talking about actually delay or is it more of this, when it starts to wander a little can you correct/turn the wheel slow and it will do nothing until you turn the wheel a little faster, then it responds?
Mine did this and it was a bad seal/orings between the left and right chambers in the ram. You know the seals on the piston itself.
I could just barely steer it and it would leak internaly at the same rate and the truck would do nothing untill Iturned it a little more/quicker, then it would turn.
The orbital would have to put more fluid out than what was leaking internaly before the ram would respond.
Before this my truck would steer 4 turns lock to lock with a stock chevy pump. I drove it to cranberry lake for an event one year on 47s with full hydro.
with the leaky piston seal, I was scared to drive it to the store.:eeek:
On the stomper I could drive it fine. At hiway speed it is a little quicker (truck is at a higher rpm). but listen close.
Does this "delay" you are talking about actually delay or is it more of this, when it starts to wander a little can you correct/turn the wheel slow and it will do nothing until you turn the wheel a little faster, then it responds?
Mine did this and it was a bad seal/orings between the left and right chambers in the ram. You know the seals on the piston itself.
I could just barely steer it and it would leak internaly at the same rate and the truck would do nothing untill Iturned it a little more/quicker, then it would turn.
The orbital would have to put more fluid out than what was leaking internaly before the ram would respond.
Before this my truck would steer 4 turns lock to lock with a stock chevy pump. I drove it to cranberry lake for an event one year on 47s with full hydro.
with the leaky piston seal, I was scared to drive it to the store.:eeek:
The ram is used, but pretty new.
I'll try to describe the delay..
Driving down the road, I turn the wheel, then a split second later it turns. I think its something I'm going to have to get used to, to be honest.
I'll try to describe the delay..
Driving down the road, I turn the wheel, then a split second later it turns. I think its something I'm going to have to get used to, to be honest.
Not Jobless
Mr Funbags
1st of all, full hydro steering is illegal on the road, go look it up in the RCW's
2nd, return to center, as its been mentioned, is a result of toe-in on a mechanical stock setup, not full hydro.
3rd, it's a trail rig, just wheel it.
2nd, return to center, as its been mentioned, is a result of toe-in on a mechanical stock setup, not full hydro.
3rd, it's a trail rig, just wheel it.
Binder
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You could very well have a big air bubble in the lines between the ram and the orbital. Could be that specific ram has some weird functioning but I would doubt it.
All I find are steering wheel requirements and free play values. How do manufactures get away with electric controls for steering?
I would guess its like the break system. If its not bleed correctly then there can still be air in the system. And if the ram is flat the air may not be able to get out, or its traped somewhere else maybe?
I would ask if its spongy but I dont know how to tell if it is?
It took me a couple hours of sitting in the garage with out the motor running on jack stands turning the wheel lock to lock to get all the air out of my system.
Not Jobless
Mr Funbags
I'd have to go back and find it. It talks about there being a requirement for a "mechanical connection" or something along those lines...
Yes I know this. I live on a private dead-end street and I was just on a test drive.
This is true. A lot of new cars out there are all electronic.
bigiron
Stuck in the Swamp
Brad is correct it is illegal for the hiway.....Joop it will be a tow in issue or camber issue that is making it not want to return to center......my rig gets real scary at any kind of speed.....you make very slight movements of the wheel otherwise it changes lanes
TreeClimber
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"All electronic steering" or "Electric assist"
Kia has an option on the Forte, which replaces the motor driven power steering pump with an electrically driven assist. However the steering wheel is still connected directly with the Rack & Pinion via a steering shaft.
Now if there was no connectivity between the steering wheel and the steering rack & pinion, what would happen if you had a problem? Sure as ****, you'd wreck bad.
bigiron
Stuck in the Swamp
It is worded just like that Brad "mechanical connection" I researched it when I started my full hydro.....some construction equipment is exempt of the requirement for street use
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I vote not fully bled yet and spend some time getting used to it.
Like boxboy said....front end on jackstands,motor OFF and SLOWLY cycle lock to lock until all the air is burped out.
Hauling ass with full hydro is a non issue
Like boxboy said....front end on jackstands,motor OFF and SLOWLY cycle lock to lock until all the air is burped out.
Hauling ass with full hydro is a non issue
Binder
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Not necessarily. They usually do but remeber this is a dead ended system so a air bubble won't "purge" through and could stay in there forever...The air bubble will try to work itself uphill obviousely so if you have any up then down routing of the hoses the bubble is probably in that upper part of the hose.
What about the GM quadrasteer and the Honda 4ws car? The rear steer axle has no mechanical linkage and it is all electricly controlled. I think there are a couple other cars with electric steering controls for the front axle too.
Here are the street legal requirements for steering in Washington:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=204-10-034
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.375
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