RBD VIDEOS

CHASMAN9 · Dec 4, 2015

SHELBS44 said:
I know it's gonna take some r&i to make sure it doesn't cut out but in my new rig I'm putting in contact switches where it won't start unless I'm strapped in

Jake Burkey(Burkeyracing.com) was developing this idea and had a prototype setup and video after the passing of Shannon Fox. Might want to hit him up if you're looking for this.

Cole · Dec 4, 2015

RZRS GONE WILD AT RBD 2015

GT_Buggy · Dec 4, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX38DrrheuI

SHELBS44 · Dec 4, 2015

CHASMAN9 said:
Jake Burkey(Burkeyracing.com) was developing this idea and had a prototype setup and video after the passing of Shannon Fox. Might want to hit him up if you're looking for this.

Thanks Greg yeah I saw where he was making a buzzer that won't cut off until strapped in and Iv thought of that too. It will be a little while
Before I get deeper into it. Got to get it rolling first haha

CHASMAN9 · Dec 4, 2015

SHELBS44 said:
Thanks Greg yeah I saw where he was making a buzzer that won't cut off until strapped in and Iv thought of that too. It will be a little while
Before I get deeper into it. Got to get it rolling first haha

If it saves one person, it is a success but would like to see it expand. Glad I could help.

kushKrawlin · Dec 4, 2015

Why does this buggy lean so much when he parks it? Just curious.

jeeptj99 · Dec 4, 2015

kushKrawlin said:
Why does this buggy lean so much when he parks it? Just curious.

Fat chicks man....

Rokcrler · Dec 4, 2015

Re: Re: Re: RBD VIDEOS

kushKrawlin said:
Why does this buggy lean so much when he parks it? Just curious.

Not running ORI's :dunno:

TacomaJD · Dec 4, 2015

Not enough rebound dampening in the bypass shocks or poor suspension geometry....probably bypass valving and/or possibly even coilover valving too.

CHASMAN9 · Dec 4, 2015

Optical illusion? :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

ADAMCARTER315 · Dec 4, 2015

kushKrawlin said:
Why does this buggy lean so much when he parks it? Just curious.

Needs a sway bar in a bad way.

kmcminn · Dec 4, 2015

ADAMCARTER315 said:
Needs a sway bar in a bad way.

I would think a sway bar would just be a band aid.

TacomaJD · Dec 4, 2015

I'm kind of mixed on the anti rock bars. I'm just a wee lad with a lot to learn in the suspension world, but if you got the shocks set up to where they soak up bumps, don't bottom out landing a jump, and it just works for you, and you are tired of tuning on it, but it leans like this, throw a sway bar on it and go. There's a lot more to tune when you throw bypass shocks on there.

If the suspension is not where you want it after some tuning, and it leans, then I would consider a sway bar a band aid. Like if I would have put a sway bar on my Toyota before changing rear air shocks to shorter 2.5's and linking the front paired with coilovers, it would have been a bandaid.

Just my uneducated theory, not saying it's right. Just how I currently view the matter. lol.

Adam, just out of curiosity, are you running the coilovers like normal, or just as coil carriers and letting the bypass shocks do the damping?

gatekeeper · Dec 4, 2015

This is the buggys 2nd time out, I can assure you it's not poor suspension geometry. Shocks have stock valving , ? Spring rate. He will get all the bugs worked out and it will not lean like this

TacomaJD · Dec 4, 2015

Cool, new buggy! Sounds like not enough rebound damping then, shocks trying to unload. Nitrogen levels could play a small factor in it too.

al1tonyota · Dec 4, 2015

No way can shock valving make a vehicle lean! Nitrogen pressure with coilovers or bypasses won't make a vehicle lean!

gatekeeper · Dec 4, 2015

So if you take the valving out of the shocks , park it on a 20 degree slope from a driving position with say the tires turned or just the weight of the rig will not allow it to initiate a lean easier than having the correct valving?
I personally think the spring rate could be off some , valving is off and it needs a swaybar

TacomaJD · Dec 4, 2015

al1tonyota said:
No way can shock valving make a vehicle lean! Nitrogen pressure with coilovers or bypasses won't make a vehicle lean!

How can shock valving not make a vehicle lean?? Maybe I'm just thinking about air shocks more than coilovers, but the same principal applies when a shock is a shock - a piston traveling through oil pressurized by nitrogen. If the shim stack for rebound is not providing enough resistance on the oil flowing through the piston, would that not allow it to unload easier? If there is more n20 in it, would that not cause it to unload easier? I know you set your ride height with n20 in an air shock, obviously ride height is set by coil springs on coilovers, but too much n20 in the coilover or moreso the bypass shock in this case should cause it to unload easier, right?

al1tonyota · Dec 4, 2015

gatekeeper said:
So if you take the valving out of the shocks , park it on a 20 degree slope from a driving position with say the tires turned or just the weight of the rig will not allow it to initiate a lean easier than having the correct valving?
I personally think the spring rate could be off some , valving is off and it needs a swaybar

The valving only slows the oil while moving. Once the vehicle has stopped the oil isn't moving hence the valving doesn't make a difference. Example how many beaters have you seen with no shocks and leaf springs? It won't cause the vehicle to lean because the spring is what is holding the vehicle up. My old buggy the rock tractor had single triangulated four link front and rear with spools front and rear when you turned in a circle it would unload on the inside either way you turned! I believe it is called roll center? And has something to do with when you articulate the axle it makes the rear or front axle turn slightly through the articulation range? The nitrogen in a co is compressing the oil in the shock to keep it from cavitating while moving through the valves, it will slightly raise ride hieght maybe an inch or two with the vehicle supported by the springs but won't support the weight of the vehicle with no spring.

kmcminn · Dec 4, 2015

al1tonyota said:
The valving only slows the oil while moving. Once the vehicle has stopped the oil isn't moving hence the valving doesn't make a difference. Example how many beaters have you seen with no shocks and leaf springs? It won't cause the vehicle to lean because the spring is what is holding the vehicle up. My old buggy the rock tractor had single triangulated four link front and rear with spools front and rear when you turned in a circle it would unload on the inside either way you turned! I believe it is called roll center? And has something to do with when you articulate the axle it makes the rear or front axle turn slightly through the articulation range? The nitrogen in a co is compressing the oil in the shock to keep it from cavitating while moving through the valves, it will slightly raise ride hieght maybe an inch or two with the vehicle supported by the springs but won't support the weight of the vehicle with no spring.

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