Thinking about considering the possibility of contemplating buying a 6.0

Beerj · Jul 2, 2015

I don't have much of any experience with 6.0's other than I had one in my tbss. Anyone know the particulars of the engine in this van with only the info in the ad? Good candidate to run or maybe even build up a little?

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/5073027662.html

I definitely don't need or want the trans but he says he won't split. Am I a jerk for not wanting to give him more than 2k, with or without the trans? Lemme know what you guys think. Thanks

muddinmetal · Jul 2, 2015

Beerj said:
I don't have much of any experience with 6.0's other than I had one in my tbss. Anyone know the particulars of the engine in this van with only the info in the ad? Good candidate to run or maybe even build up a little?

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/5073027662.html

I definitely don't need or want the trans but he says he won't split. Am I a jerk for not wanting to give him more than 2k, with or without the trans? Lemme know what you guys think. Thanks

For what purpose? IMO a 6.0 is not worth $800-1800 more than a 5.3 especially considering a 5.3 makes more horsepower stock

Beerj · Jul 2, 2015

It'll be going in here.

Eventually I'd like to build it up but for the time being, I mostly need something to build around.

onepieceatatime · Jul 2, 2015

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If I was building a new buggy I'd be looking for a L33 5.3 and hope whoever has it doesn't know what it is. Had one in my last pickup truck and that thing would get after without any toys on it. I've met a couple guys that had them in their trucks and didn't know there was a difference between 5.3s.

muddinmetal · Jul 2, 2015

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onepieceatatime said:
If I was building a new buggy I'd be looking for a L33 5.3 and hope whoever has it doesn't know what it is. Had one in my last pickup truck and that thing would get after without any toys on it. I've met a couple guys that had them in their trucks and didn't know there was a difference between 5.3s.

That is a 8th digit in the VIN is a B motor. They are usually expensive because anything out of a truck is high these days. The real secret is a V8 trailblazer, Sabb 9-7x, Buick Rainer, Envoy, etc. All Aluminum & easy to find cheap :****:

Neal3000 · Jul 2, 2015

muddinmetal said:
IMO a 6.0 is not worth $800-1800 more than a 5.3 especially considering a 5.3 makes more horsepower stock

Really?

muddinmetal · Jul 2, 2015

Neal3000 said:
Really?

2500 3500 6.0 truck motors were 300 hp from 99-07. 5.3s were 310-325 from 02 up

Neal3000 · Jul 2, 2015

Found this on wikipedia, i guess the L33 is the 310 hp version, does it have the 243 heads?

The Vortec 5300, or LM7/L59/LM4, is a V8 truck engine. It is a longer-stroked (by 9 mm (0.35 in)) version of the Vortec 4800 and replaced the L31. L59 denoted a flexible fuel version of the standard fuel LM7 engine. Displacement is 5.3 L (5,328 cc (325.1 cu in)) from 3.78-inch (96 mm) bore and 3.622-inch (92.0 mm) stroke. Vortec 5300s are built in St. Catharines, Ontario and Romulus, Michigan. Another engine variant, the L33, shares the same displacement, but has an aluminum block with cast in cylinder liners, much like the LS1. This allowed a 100 lb (45 kg) weight savings over the standard LM7 model. Other differences were a higher lift cam shaft (0.482 in (12.2 mm) v. 0.456 in (11.6 mm) on both intake & exhaust), higher compression ratio (9.9:1 v. 9.49:1), and cylinder heads originally designed for the LS6. These differences bumped output: GM rated the engine at 310 hp (230 kW) and 338 lbf·ft (458 N·m).

LM7
The Vortec 5300 LM7 (VIN code 8th digit "T") was introduced in 1999, and can be considered the "garden variety" version of the Generation III 5.3 liter V8's.

The 1999 LM7 engine produced 270;hp (201;kW) and 315 ft lb of torque (427 N·m),

The 2000-2003 engines made 285;hp (213;kW) and 325;lb·ft (441 N·m).

The 2004-2007 engines made {295 hp} and {335 ft. lb of torque}, it has a cast iron block and aluminum heads.
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6.0
The Vortec 6000 is a V8 truck engine. Displacement is 6.00 L (366 cu in) from 101.6 mm (4.00) bore and 92 mm (3.622") stroke. It is an iron/aluminum (1999 & 2000 model year engines had cast iron heads) design and produces 300 horsepower (220 kW) to 345 horsepower (257 kW) and 360 lbf·ft (490 N·m) to 380 lbf·ft (520 N·m).

LQ4
The Vortec 6000 LQ4, is a V8 truck engine. Displacement is 5.97 L (364 cu in) from a 4.0-inch (101.6 mm) bore and 3.622-inch (92.0 mm) stroke . It is an iron/aluminum (1999 & 2000 model year engines had cast iron heads) design and produces 300 hp (224 kW) to 325 hp and 360 lb·ft (488 N·m) to 370 lb·ft (502 N·m). LQ4s are built in Romulus, Michigan and Silao, Mexico.

fltruckwash · Jul 2, 2015

No replacement for displacement....

Elliott · Jul 2, 2015

Sure there is, it's called blowers and turbos

fltruckwash · Jul 2, 2015

Elliott said:
Sure there is, it's called blowers and turbos

Yeah but that's a different discussion.....lol..... been thinking about that myself actually...looking at a twin turbo option for mine... I honestly think you can find a better deal on a 6.0 if that's what you want though. Although the 5.3's are readily available and alot cheaper. Just depends on what you want and what you plan on doing in the future. I'd say pass on that deal and find one for the motor and accessories only

1tfrot · Jul 2, 2015

pretty darn happy with my 6.0

cam, headers, heads, tune and it rips pretty good. don't think a 5.3 would run this good with the same stuff.

Beerj · Jul 2, 2015

Well he just got back to me. That one is sold but he has another with 80k. No computer or accessories. Said he's asking 1200. Out of an 05 silverado. How much of a bitch is it to get a computer? I kinda thought you need the one that originally came with the motor :dunno:

Would something like this work?

mcutler · Jul 2, 2015

But the all aluminum '06 corvette ls2 6.0 is factory rated at 400hp-411hp independently tested. But their won't be many deals found on those. ...:-[

I paid dearly $$$ for mine (w/ 24,000 mi) and then added the mast tune package- $$$ to get to 450hp.

matt

1tfrot · Jul 2, 2015

mcutler said:
But the all aluminum '06 corvette ls2 6.0 is factory rated at 400hp-411hp independently tested. But their won't be many deals found on those. ...:-[

I paid dearly $$$ for mine (w/ 24,000 mi) and then added the mast tune package- $$$ to get to 450hp.

matt

I paid $2,000 for mine complete. had less than 5k miles. that was about 4-5 years ago now. with the Texas Speed heads and the cam I'm running I'm suppose to be a bit north of the 450 mark. with a different stall now, it moves out pretty good

knowing that, there's definitely better "bang for the buck" options now.

5BrothersFabrication · Jul 3, 2015

Sorry I didn't answer many texts earlier John. It was a busy night. I agree on the 5.3 comments, but if you really have your heart set on a 6.0, contact pholmann or Payne97 on here, they both "know a feller" that can get you a better deal than $2k for one. :dblthumb:

Mortalis5509 · Jul 3, 2015

Re: Re: Thinking about considering the possibility of contemplating buying a 6.0

Beerj said:
Well he just got back to me. That one is sold but he has another with 80k. No computer or accessories. Said he's asking 1200. Out of an 05 silverado. How much of a bitch is it to get a computer? I kinda thought you need the one that originally came with the motor
Would something like this work?

You can find them on ebay. Be sure it's the same rear range (ie: Gen 3 stays Gen 3 and so on). Amazon might have some or rockauto. I bought my 6.2 without wiring harness and computer. Thinking about it, I need one for a Gen 4.

Mortalis5509 · Jul 3, 2015

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Here is an intresting link from pirate on some dyno proven power adders: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2099849

Beerj · Jul 3, 2015

1tfrot said:
I paid $2,000 for mine complete. had less than 5k miles. that was about 4-5 years ago now. with the Texas Speed heads and the cam I'm running I'm suppose to be a bit north of the 450 mark. with a different stall now, it moves out pretty good

knowing that, there's definitely better "bang for the buck" options now.

Round here, that seems to be a good deal. There is a brand new 6.0 for like 4600. But I don't think the lack of miles quite justifies the jump in price.

5BrothersFabrication said:
Sorry I didn't answer many texts earlier John. It was a busy night. I agree on the 5.3 comments, but if you really have your heart set on a 6.0, contact pholmann or Payne97 on here, they both "know a feller" that can get you a better deal than $2k for one.

No problem man, I kinda figured that. I wouldn't say I'm dead set on a 6.0. I guess it comes down to I'd like to have the most room to grow. That being said, maybe a 5.3 could grow almost as much as a 6.0 and be a little cheaper, I really don't know. I might see about getting in touch with Mr. Knowafeller, although the drive down might be a beating

Mortalis5509 said:
You can find them on ebay. Be sure it's the same rear range (ie: Gen 3 stays Gen 3 and so on). Amazon might have some or rockauto. I bought my 6.2 without wiring harness and computer. Thinking about it, I need one for a Gen 4.

I've done a little more research myself. I'm happy to see that I was wrong and that a computer isn't necessarily a deal breaker. Seemed like those guys got some decent #'s out of that tired 6.0.