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jeeptj99

jeeptj99

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I'm in a little bit of a thought bind here. I've broke my jeep 3 times in 3 trips. Well one was something that was missed from the first break but none the less still 3 trips done because of catastrophic breakage. I was talked into building a hp 44 and a 8.8. I have spent so much money on the 44 that I'm pretty much married to it. Full 3 link, grizzly locker, RCV's all the **** you can throw at one to make it not break. Well it keeps breaking. So now I'm in a pinch. I've got all the stuff to stretch the rear of my jeep out and 4 link it, but Im now hesitant about putting any more money towards those axles. I know I'll never get my money back out of them. So do I go on and do the stretch, or do I try to sell the axles and let the jeep sit while I collect parts for won tons? Another thought I had was selling the jeep and trying to buy a buggy or maybe another well built jeep/toyota, however I don't know how much I could even get out of the jeep and I'm not in a financial spot to really throw money at a buggy. I'm thinking out loud here and looking for thoughts and suggestions. If I'm breaking this much **** on bald 35's what will happen if I do decide to keep it and go up to a bigger tire? I've had the jeep since I was 19, it was the first vehicle I bought (other than the zj my parents bought for me when I was 16 and paid them back for it over a year or two) but the first one that actually had my name on the bank loan and title. My dad, a couple good friends, and myself have done all the work from the 3 links to the cage to axle swap all of it.
 
Keep the jeep, buy tons and eventually swap them in when you gathered all the parts. Cucvs(60/14) will hold a lot of abuse, and can be had for as low as 1200.00
 
Re: what to do?

Tons. Fix yours, sell them. Take that money and buy tons. You'll be way ahead, even on stock tons.
 
Ok so I' ll Play devils advocate here. What have you broken? Maybe new tires would help that way your not beating on it to get over something. What kind of maintenance do you do? I wheeled a hp44 in my yj for 3 years. Was built like yours. Never broke anything in it running 39" isucks
 
screamn56 said:
Ok so I' ll Play devils advocate here. What have you broken? Maybe new tires would help that way your not beating on it to get over something. What kind of maintenance do you do? I wheeled a hp44 in my yj for 3 years. Was built like yours. Never broke anything in it running 39" isucks
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I hate to say it, but he's on to something. Thought about changing driving style? I am in a very similar situation with mine and the stupid LP44 in it. I've been debating throwing a 60 in the front so I can step up to 39-40's, but until I do, I have just had really good luck with mine as a crawler.

It's on 37's and it goes places that it has no business being as long as I just let the jeep work. Honestly, the big reason I want to swap it is because a working 44 is easier to get a little money out of than a broken one. That would offset the cost of the swap.

It would be super nice to be able to beat it like my name was BugE-J, but I know it's gonna spit parts out if I do so I just crawl. Still goes most places I want to go in a full bodied jeep.
 
Sounds to me like you are using wheel speed too much. Like you need lower gearing and better tires. Stock t case? What axle gears?

That Tacoma I had that was SAS'd had a Waggy D44 in front and stock Tacoma rear. The rear had stock Tacoma shafts, front had stock D44 shafts. Broke the stock D44 shafts two different times before upgrading to Yukon 4340 chromo shafts and Superjoints and never had a problem out of it again. It was a 3rz 4 cyl with 5 speed tranny, stock t-case and only had 4:88 gears in axles on 36" TSL's so it was geared way high for the kind of wheeling I wanted to do.

So everytime I had to beat on it, it was utilizing a lot of wheel speed because it wasn't geared low enough to crawl anything. Riding the clutch or wide open, only way to get up stuff. So my thinking on yours is that you are breaking stuff by shock load, wheel speed then something grabs and boom. That's how I kept breaking stock D44 shafts. One thing I learned was the importance of a crawl gear t-case setup so as to avoid shock load. That would be life changing for your rig, coupled with new tires. You would be amazed how much easier you could go up **** in a super low gear too.
 
Re: what to do?

Put some 37" sticky tires on it.

For real.


Or if it's still decent for street driving, put it back together and sell it whole for ~$8-10k and buy a built one ton something for $12-20k (or less if you just want a trailer queen trail rig)


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Sticky tires and learn to crawl...
Or stock one tons. It's hard to argue with all these cheap SD60s are floating around cheap
 
Tons, never look back. If you buy more small tires, its just money pissed away again. You will eventually go bigger, go ahead and do it ONCE.
 
I rode with a Jeep with a 4cyl and one tons last week.
He had a rock stuck in his rims and beat the hell out of the earth trying to get unstuck. molaugh

Overaxled and underpowered is a good time.
 
screamn56 said:
Ok so I' ll Play devils advocate here. What have you broken? Maybe new tires would help that way your not beating on it to get over something. What kind of maintenance do you do? I wheeled a hp44 in my yj for 3 years. Was built like yours. Never broke anything in it running 39" isucks
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Broke 3 rcv's a grizzly locker, t case, 8.8 pinion. Running 5:13 gears in the axles stock t case and a ax15 trans so pretty much stock there. An atlas would be sweet for crawling. I always try to do bolt check every other ride and grease my rcv's once ever 3 months. I could probably do more but I don't slouch on maintenance.
 
jeeptj99 said:
Broke 3 rcv's a grizzly locker, t case, 8.8 pinion. Running 5:13 gears in the axles stock t case and a ax15 trans so pretty much stock there. An atlas would be sweet for crawling. I always try to do bolt check every other ride and grease my rcv's once ever 3 months. I could probably do more but I don't slouch on maintenance.
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Sounds like you like to party. It's time for a buggy!
 
Re: what to do?

Gotta be the heavy foot, my zj is a pretty well built d30 and 8.8 on 36 iroks and I crawl most everything, this rig shocks a lot of people, I break 2-3 axles a year and that's it, I did go to one tons in my Yj and I'm trying to get used to it, I'd say buy some tons and build em up then swap em in


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creepycrawly said:
I hate to say it, but he's on to something. Thought about changing driving style? I am in a very similar situation with mine and the stupid LP44 in it. I've been debating throwing a 60 in the front so I can step up to 39-40's, but until I do, I have just had really good luck with mine as a crawler.

It's on 37's and it goes places that it has no business being as long as I just let the jeep work. Honestly, the big reason I want to swap it is because a working 44 is easier to get a little money out of than a broken one. That would offset the cost of the swap.

It would be super nice to be able to beat it like my name was BugE-J, but I know it's gonna spit parts out if I do so I just crawl. Still goes most places I want to go in a full bodied jeep.
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**** i drove my yota buggy like that. Breaking sit is not gonna stop me from beating the he'll out of something. I was splitting axle housings and doubler cases on 39 iroks. Best thing I ever did was go tons. If you love your rig swap tons in and have plans to make more power. Because if you drive like me and it doesn't break you didn't have enough power. I would buy a cheap rig that you can upgrade though. Be happier and cheaper in long run
 

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