tonybolton
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So it's the year 2050, what are we gonna see on the trails (not the races)?
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TBItoy
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some of that is already on "normal" vehicles like the 4Runner KDSS, but I haven't seen it adapted to real offroad long travel suspension.
I think we'll see the spool valve tech in long travel offroad shocks before long.
tkinze
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electric motors all around, 1 electric motor at each wheel and would also negate need for any gearing at all. Imagine the possibilities, no drive-line, no drive shafts or any of the crap associated.
TBItoy
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I saw some pics of GM electric "crate motors" from SEMA
Eddyj
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Rockwells and 4 speeds... cause they is simple and cheap.
ridered3
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Bringing this thread back from the dead. Any new thoughts about future offroading?
Lil ugly
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based on our current presidential leadership I have my money on electric pogosticks as the offroad vehicle of the future.
Wagfabulous
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Stickys will be old enough by then I could afford a set thats built this year lol . All jokes aside though when they figure out how to make a long lasting battery that doesnt weigh a ton there will be electric buggys . They'll be substantially lighter that what we see now after the battery technology comes around. What I imagine is something like rockwell axles with an electric motor on each pinion , no need for engine, trans, tcase , or driveshafts . One single vfd to run both motors , a battery , a small electric hydraulic unit kinda like what you see on roll back to run the steering on both axles. Im just brainstorming but thats what I see. Can you imagine seeing a buggy weighing under 2k with no rotationial torque loss besides axles an tires ?
I don't expect this to happen, unless you're talking competition moon buggies with a 15mn autonomy.
Batteries weigh a ton.
MOA architecture is coming though, that's for sure.
extremetownie
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Speak English , dammit.
This is called MOA architechture.
Motor On Axle.
@extremetownie Only thing I could see in my post that wasn't crystal clear. Anything else that's "not English" ?
Wagfabulous
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Yea 2k is alittle on the light side . I have no idea what the average bare chassis weighs but I do know that stickys and beadlocks weigh 180 a piece . Just happened to see some on a scale the other day . Id say its possible it could still be under 3k . Again this all relies on technology changing in the next 30 years .
smbroady82
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jeeptj99
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jeeptj99
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under 2k would be insanely hard to do on a trail rig. i only know of 1 and you have no cooler/tool space and it's like an outfit you put it on to drive it..... but it will hurt your feelings.
Wagfabulous
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I bet that rig has hurt alot of people's feelings . Something else I often wonder is if anyone has played with aircraft aluminum tubing chassis yet on a buggy. I realize its not very cost effective but I'm sure someone has.
ridered3
Not Rigless
What does 15 Autonomous Minnesota's (MN) have to do with anything?Knowing full well that's the lingo meaning 15 minutes of run time.
TBItoy
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Only if you get the special "high impact" permit (subscription service of course) + extra charge per Po, double charge if you want the Go.
TBItoy
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That thing will drive up stuff easier than walking...
but I see ~150lbs of possible savings (air shocks, plastic fuel cell, aluminum wheels),
plus another ~150-250 if you made it into a big RC car
When you start talking % of total weight, instead of pure weight, it gets big on rigs like this.
Jesse Haines goes so far as to fab tiny sheetmetal brackets for accessories, tiny low-output alternators, etc on the comp cars.
Lil ugly
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You joke about the RC car but you are probably closer to the truth than you realize.That thing will drive up stuff easier than walking...
but I see ~150lbs of possible savings (air shocks, plastic fuel cell, aluminum wheels),
plus another ~150-250 if you made it into a big RC car
When you start talking % of total weight, instead of pure weight, it gets big on rigs like this.
Jesse Haines goes so far as to fab tiny sheetmetal brackets for accessories, tiny low-output alternators, etc on the comp cars.
