24hr of Lemons

ridered3 · Jun 1, 2012

Great pics, stories, and videos! Really like the idea of "hauling ass." Seems like the competitors would crack up every time seeing the donkey in the back.

InDaShop · Jun 1, 2012

ridered3 said:
Great pics, stories, and videos! Really like the idea of "hauling ass." Seems like the competitors would crack up every time seeing the donkey in the back.

So there was this car out there "Speedy Monzales" had the lit up whip tail. On that huge pass I had on Turn 10 (3 rows of 2 wide and I took 'em all on the outside) Speedy's tail was leaning over and thumping the BPC on the hood in the turn. I couldnt stop laughing, and whats worse is that car was pretty fast.

For reference this is the track. Elevation changes are huge n this course. The difference between bottom of 9 and top of 10 is 70 feet.

InDaShop · Jun 6, 2012

Hella Sweet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Myq7HzJ5ME&feature=plcp

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Bones · Jun 6, 2012

Thank god they stopped using the term hella and butt terrible early on. Nice try at the funny asshats.

InDaShop · Jun 6, 2012

Thats the one thing that i just have to
Ignore about lemons, its all of the extremely gay, played out, retarded stuff that they do. Like you have Tech Inspection and then you have Bullshit Inspection. Tech is legit, BS is so terribly gay. You have to dress up
And generally look and act like moogs.
Blackflags and you have to visit the penalty box where a guy in a judges robe makes you do **** just because he feels like it at that point. The racing is worth it, and i know some just get off on the sophomoric ****. Im just not one of them.

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InDaShop · Aug 9, 2012

The BPC motor is nearly done, I really dont know what all is done to it, but it got some cheap internal mods on the rebuild. I think Seth & Nathan are stabbing it this weekend.

InDaShop said:
. And in addition to all of that repair we are acquiring another JEEP to race. So we will be a two car team, it's a Commanche that I think we are going to put a fiberglass donkey in the bed and call is "Hauling ASS"

need to update this one. We didnt end up with that Comanche, we kept looking and looking.
This past weekend we scored one, but it was a very long process of haggle with the owner that lasted about a month. Dude wanted $2200 and was 3 hours away. The final deal. $800 and he delivered to us!!!! Then come to find out it has brand new tires with certs, less than 300miles and the reciept dated in June. We are hoping to get $450 for those. And have $350 in it!!!!

I'm starting the cage on Sunday. And mod wise its not getting all the bells and whistles of the BPC but its going to be a fast truck that we'll be modifying as we wear things out or break them. We're running the 4x4 front axle for the next race just pulling the driveshaft. Its getting a Ford 8.8 w/ big brakes in the back with an spring under, cut front coils. We arent doing the front big brake kit or the offset front ball joints either, nor the big radiator yet. The motor and mods on the BPC kinda drained the race acct. until after the Sept race here in Houston.

As for theme, "Haulin' Ass" is off the table. I havent been able to find a donkey. The two idea in play are "wrapped" haybales in the bed to look like dope and do it up like some drug runners and be "haulin grass" or the likely but more involved do it up like a mexican lawn crew truck and be TGTW Bush Trimmers "Your Southern Landscaping Service"

And for anyone interested in an arrive and drive with us, we plan to sell two driver spots for each race all next season.

Heres our Cherotruck

Neal3000 · Aug 10, 2012

Too cool! So do the guys your smoking in sports cars, do they just suck at driving or whats the deal? And why don't yall get a old bmw or 300zx or something like that to race?

Bones · Aug 10, 2012

A sports car would be too easy.

Interested in a seat next season Wyatt if you don't mind zero experience :****:

InDaShop · Aug 10, 2012

Neal3000 said:
Too cool! So do the guys your smoking in sports cars, do they just suck at driving or whats the deal? And why don't yall get a old bmw or 300zx or something like that to race?

I can hardly say it with a straight face and not laughing, that cherokee handles better than 90% of the field, and is typically in the top 2-3 in overall speed.
That Jeep is faster than everything we've raced in Lemons so far except for one of the BMW e30's this last race, and a Ford Fairmont the race before. There are some extremely good drivers in Lemons, but there are also a lot of shitty ones. But the suspension recipe, our brake combo, and the torque of the 4.0l makes the jeep a serious track threat.
There is no better feeling than a late apex on the inside to drive out of a turn pulling a pass on a Porsche 911. And damn it, for not having cameras on the car in our last night race, the 6 car pass I pulled in the dark going wideopen, to the outside on a blind uphill right sweeper was nothing short of epic.
You can drive that jeep harder into the turn than most of the field, and you have the torque to pull out of the turn better than all of the field we've encountered so far.

Our achillies heal is the fuel tank. 20.2 gal, that we can only use 11-12 gal of before it starts cutting out on hard left turns. When it cuts out it unsettles the car, you get loose, you risk being ass-ended. Just all around bad. So while the field is going 2.5-3hrs between pit stops we are stopping every 1.5 hours. And Lemons rules is no one can be in the car while fueling. So its a full un-buckle, exit, fuel, get back in, get belts on, and go. a Solid 8-10 minute ordeal. We typically go down 3-4 laps on a fuel stop. TERRIBLE. This next race we are running a surge tank so hopefully that helps.....

InDaShop · Aug 10, 2012

Bones said:
A sports car would be too easy.

Interested in a seat next season Wyatt if you don't mind zero experience :****:

Dont sell yourself short, you understand turns and apex and braking from all of your bike riding, and yes we'd definately have you.
We've talked about Omaha or Chicago. The best would be if they do Road America again next year. Thats the one we really really wanna do.

Neal3000 · Aug 10, 2012

I think you would smoke the fawk out of everybody if you was in a sportscar

InDaShop · Aug 10, 2012

Neal3000 said:
I think you would smoke the fawk out of everybody if you was in a sportscar

Name one that you can do reasonably priced.
Remember, rules are $500 for the car and anything that makes it move forward.
There are a lot of 300z's, and a fair number of old bmw's, and old lexus, sure they are fast. But to race 24 hours you have to have endurance, and we havent seen any of the foreign sports cars that are fast be consistent in the endurance dept.
Last race the car that won our class was a Honda Civic, they did 4.5-5hour driver stints only stopped for fuel. They just stayed out there. We could past the hell out of them, we were way faster. Even had we had zero downtime for repairs we didnt have anything for them, they just flat stayed out and put on laps. I would like to have won, but a close second is the constant passing you get to do. Makes you feel successful, even if just for a few seconds.

Bones · Aug 10, 2012

Keep me posted. I will fly if I have to to get the chance to do something like this. I ain't skeerd

blacksheep10 · Aug 10, 2012

OMG I wanna do this. I fancy myself as a good driver too laughing1
So you can't baffle the tank and put it back together or better yet just walbro pickup it in 4 corners?

InDaShop · Aug 10, 2012

plastic tank, and the pump is a funky junky monkey that we couldnt figure out a good way to attach walbros to it. This try to solve is cheap, the next one is a cell. We are tired of the handicap.

blacksheep10 · Aug 10, 2012

InDaShop said:
plastic tank, and the pump is a funky junky monkey that we couldnt figure out a good way to attach walbros to it. This try to solve is cheap, the next one is a cell. We are tired of the handicap.

ya there are some CHEAP plastic cells out there, especially swap meeting for stuff. It is the stock pump I'm assuming?

InDaShop · Aug 10, 2012

blacksheep10 said:
ya there are some CHEAP plastic cells out there, especially swap meeting for stuff. It is the stock pump I'm assuming?

the rules are stock tank or FIA cert'ed fuel cell. Lends you to try to make whatever work with the stock tank.

lt99ls1 · Aug 10, 2012

InDaShop said:
I can hardly say it with a straight face and not laughing, that cherokee handles better than 90% of the field, and is typically in the top 2-3 in overall speed.
That Jeep is faster than everything we've raced in Lemons so far except for one of the BMW e30's this last race, and a Ford Fairmont the race before. There are some extremely good drivers in Lemons, but there are also a lot of shitty ones. But the suspension recipe, our brake combo, and the torque of the 4.0l makes the jeep a serious track threat.
There is no better feeling than a late apex on the inside to drive out of a turn pulling a pass on a Porsche 911. And damn it, for not having cameras on the car in our last night race, the 6 car pass I pulled in the dark going wideopen, to the outside on a blind uphill right sweeper was nothing short of epic.
You can drive that jeep harder into the turn than most of the field, and you have the torque to pull out of the turn better than all of the field we've encountered so far.

Our achillies heal is the fuel tank. 20.2 gal, that we can only use 11-12 gal of before it starts cutting out on hard left turns. When it cuts out it unsettles the car, you get loose, you risk being ass-ended. Just all around bad. So while the field is going 2.5-3hrs between pit stops we are stopping every 1.5 hours. And Lemons rules is no one can be in the car while fueling. So its a full un-buckle, exit, fuel, get back in, get belts on, and go. a Solid 8-10 minute ordeal. We typically go down 3-4 laps on a fuel stop. TERRIBLE. This next race we are running a surge tank so hopefully that helps.....

Enjoying the hell out of your thread.
The Mjs used to kill on the SCCA tracks back in the day too.

doctordick · Aug 10, 2012

As I recall, old Volvos with mechanical fuel injection used an inline accumulator that held maybe a cup of fuel. I think it had a spring and diaphragm setup like an oil acumulator or pre primer. Cheap and easy fix without tank mods if you can make it work.