4WS Trail-Buggy Build - Bent Fab EVO2

TBItoy · Mar 14, 2013

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Neal3000 said:
Bad idea

Actually I am gathering quotes up for a full roller or just a chassis from a couple shops.

I'd like to actually get to wheel this thing by summer 2014.

Problem is with the chassis from a shop, is I can always find something I don't like about the design.

Neal3000 · Mar 14, 2013

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TBItoy said:
Actually I am gathering quotes up for a full roller or just a chassis from a couple shops.

I'd like to actually get to wheel this thing by summer 2014.

Problem is with the chassis from a shop, is I can always find something I don't like about the design.

i know he's a long way from you but you should talk to Pete, the feller who built Julio's cage on the rattler :****:

zukiscott · Mar 14, 2013

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HECK YEA Pete a benber up somthin for you!!!!

zukiscott · Mar 14, 2013

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thats his number!!!

Mongo44 · Mar 14, 2013

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TBItoy said:
I'd like to actually get to wheel this thing by summer 2014.

Ha!

TBItoy · Mar 14, 2013

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Got my rim stiffeners this week

June dog · Mar 14, 2013

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them look good. Glad I'm not buying all those lug nuts :****: :drinkers:

Blase · Mar 15, 2013

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I like em!

tommy450r · Mar 15, 2013

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wheels look good.. but they look like they will hold alot of mud????

TBItoy · Mar 15, 2013

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tommy450r said:
wheels look good.. but they look like they will hold alot of mud????

They got big drain slots.

And if I'm in mud up to my rims, I'm probably lost...

traveler · Mar 15, 2013

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the single most retarded thing i have ever seen what happens if you break a ring gear or a pinion or even an axle you cant pull your drive flang out very easy it going to take some time to take the tire off so you can do anything but hey your the engineer :wtflol:

ridered3 · Mar 15, 2013

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traveler said:
the single most retarded thing i have ever seen what happens if you break a ring gear or a pinion or even an axle you cant pull your drive flang out very easy it going to take some time to take the tire off so you can do anything but hey your the engineer

He drives toyotas! No way he will break anything with a v8 and tons!!!

TBItoy · Mar 15, 2013

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traveler said:
the single most retarded thing i have ever seen what happens if you break a ring gear or a pinion or even an axle you cant pull your drive flang out very easy it going to take some time to take the tire off so you can do anything but hey your the engineer

I see I have one vote of confidence... :wtflol:

And it's a bit more difficult to dimple die a half a hole... AND I still have the option to cut the center out if need be. laughing1 laughing1

Here is my reasoning on the full wheel cover:

-Breaking a ring gear? I broke ring gears all the time in the Toyota. Never saw the need pull the drive flanges, and on the Yota it wasn't a simple ordeal, had to pull the wheel, plus 6 press fit dowel pins and 6 studs with cone washers.... And on the Toyota rear axle, I couldn't "pull the slug" because well, it's a rear axle...

If I break an axle shaft/U-joint, I'm goning to pull it out of the knuckle/housing anyway, so I have to take the wheel off. With the unit bearings it's pretty simple. 2 brake caliper bolts, 4 nuts on the back side of the unit bearing and the whole assembly slides out... Don't even have to pull the drive slug!!

I've got an extra unit bearing to use as an spare/idler when I do break a shaft.

So yeah, there is really no reason to pull the drive slug with out removing the wheel first...

ridered3 said:
He drives toyotas! No way he will break anything with a v8 and tons!!!

I plan on giving it all 200hp of bone stock 1989 Ford 351W! hitit

I really hope with the stock 200hp v8 feeding an np205 and 14/D70 combo with chromo 35 spline stubs and Super Joints, that I won't have to worry about breaking too much.

oh, and only 39.5" TSLs...

:popcorn:

ridered3 · Mar 21, 2013

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TBItoy said:
I see I have one vote of confidence...

And it's a bit more difficult to dimple die a half a hole... AND I still have the option to cut the center out if need be. laughing1 laughing1

Here is my reasoning on the full wheel cover:

-Breaking a ring gear? I broke ring gears all the time in the Toyota. Never saw the need pull the drive flanges, and on the Yota it wasn't a simple ordeal, had to pull the wheel, plus 6 press fit dowel pins and 6 studs with cone washers.... And on the Toyota rear axle, I couldn't "pull the slug" because well, it's a rear axle...

If I break an axle shaft/U-joint, I'm goning to pull it out of the knuckle/housing anyway, so I have to take the wheel off. With the unit bearings it's pretty simple. 2 brake caliper bolts, 4 nuts on the back side of the unit bearing and the whole assembly slides out... Don't even have to pull the drive slug!!

I've got an extra unit bearing to use as an spare/idler when I do break a shaft.

So yeah, there is really no reason to pull the drive slug with out removing the wheel first...

I plan on giving it all 200hp of bone stock 1989 Ford 351W!

I really hope with the stock 200hp v8 feeding an np205 and 14/D70 combo with chromo 35 spline stubs and Super Joints, that I won't have to worry about breaking too much.

oh, and only 39.5" TSLs...

Plus you know how to finesse a rig to ride for the weekend. What did you decide on tube bending?

TBItoy · Mar 21, 2013

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ridered3 said:
Plus you know how to finesse a rig to ride for the weekend. What did you decide on tube bending?

I think I'm gonna frame it up myself.

It's hard for me to look at the tools I have a bunch of $ invested in and think about paying someone else to bend and weld tube.

Plus I've already bought tabs and brackets for everything.

, I know it would be a lot easier to just buy a chassis from Bent Fab or M & M or someone and just hang my drivetrain and link it up. $3000 or more just seems like a lot to pay for just a frame (not knocking anyone that runs a shop, I know it's a lot of work and people have to get paid for their work)

:dunno:

I'll figure something out... In a month or so... Racing this weekend, Easter next, then going to Harlan the next....

TBItoy · Mar 27, 2013

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TBItoy said:
I think I'm gonna frame it up myself.

I lied.

Pulled the trigger on a Bent Fab EVO2.

I may wheel before Christmas yet!

Rokcrler · Mar 27, 2013

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Sweet!
I love that chassis!
TIm is a cool dude too.
Get it done man :woot:

Neal3000 · Mar 28, 2013

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TBItoy said:
I lied.

Pulled the trigger on a Bent Fab EVO2.

I may wheel before Christmas yet!

After seeing a pic of the door skins you made for your race yota i fully think you made the right decision here :flipoff1:

TBItoy · Mar 28, 2013

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Neal3000 said:
After seeing a pic of the door skins you made for your race yota i fully think you made the right decision here

Ha! **** man that purple is hot! And they keep changing the rules, so I keep having to add more poo pipe in the door area, it's all crooked and shitty lookin (as is the whole truck)

For real tho, I'm going to try and not ****er up the looks of this buggy! :flipoff1: