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BeerJ's BuzzBuggy Build-o-rama!
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Beerj
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Thanks a lot. Looking forward to a trip down south sometime this year 
pholmann
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Beerj said:Thanks a lot. Looking forward to moving down south sometime this year and getting out of this awful north.
Fixed it for ya ^^^
Beerj
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I was actually looking at some property beside yours but I didn't like the way your horses were looking at me.
pholmann
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**** the horses barn in that pic is nicer than my house or anything near it.
iron lotus
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This thing turned out awesome.. 
Rockwells607
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those pics look like trail 5 at Rausch?
Beerj
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I agree! Thanksiron lotus said:This thing turned out awesome..
You would be correct sir. Coming in from the top side, made my way down the left side of the hill climb and then went back up the middle route. Had to heat the tires very briefly but after that she walked right up. The videos are from the gap at crawler ridge and the exit of shoot the moon.Rockwells607 said:
Rockwells607
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Headed there tomorrow
Beerj
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Damn, if I wasn't working tonight and tomorrow night I'd try to swing up. Give me a holler next time though. I'm only an hr away.
Beerj
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Thanks a lot guys. It's almost surreal to be driving something around in the woods that I built in my garage over the past 2 years.
And Ryan, spring rates appear to be spot on. I don't see any need to change anything there but I do have 1 question. I noticed I have quite a bit of body roll. Not so much while navigating obstacles but if I'm on flat ground and go hard on the throttle, the suspension will completely compress on one side and fully extend on the other. Is this an indication of something screwy with my geometry or just the nature of the beast from running soft valving and springs? You can kinda see what I mean in this clip my wife caught while I was testing things out.
https://youtu.be/kp_e-pevv2Q
And Ryan, spring rates appear to be spot on. I don't see any need to change anything there but I do have 1 question. I noticed I have quite a bit of body roll. Not so much while navigating obstacles but if I'm on flat ground and go hard on the throttle, the suspension will completely compress on one side and fully extend on the other. Is this an indication of something screwy with my geometry or just the nature of the beast from running soft valving and springs? You can kinda see what I mean in this clip my wife caught while I was testing things out.
https://youtu.be/kp_e-pevv2Q
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That is caused by driveshaft rotation torque, same thing as a drag car.
It is more prevalent when you have deeper t-case gearing, higher axle gearing, bigger tires, softer suspension, more power and lockers/spool.
I see that your dual rate nuts aren't adjusted.
In the front put them 1" away from the slider at ride height.
In the rear put them 2.5" away from the slider at ride height.
This will help with the roll, bottoming out and the torque lean.
Next step is firmer shock valving. I can re-valve them for free, or I send you the disks if you can do it.
Final step is a sway bar, cool things coming, but probably 6 months away.
Or TK1 or Performance... (no personal experience with either)
It is more prevalent when you have deeper t-case gearing, higher axle gearing, bigger tires, softer suspension, more power and lockers/spool.
I see that your dual rate nuts aren't adjusted.
In the front put them 1" away from the slider at ride height.
In the rear put them 2.5" away from the slider at ride height.
This will help with the roll, bottoming out and the torque lean.
Next step is firmer shock valving. I can re-valve them for free, or I send you the disks if you can do it.
Final step is a sway bar, cool things coming, but probably 6 months away.
Or TK1 or Performance... (no personal experience with either)
Beerj
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Ok. I figured it was because of the torque, just wasn't sure if I there was something missing in my geometry that would counteract that to some degree. I definitely think I'm going to add a swaybar to the rear at some point. I've got the room so why not.
To be honest, I didn't even mess with the slider nuts. Just figured they were where they were supposed to be. I'll get them situated right away. Overall though I think I'm pretty happy with the valving. Just cruising the trails it was super comfortable yet stable around the turns even moving at a decent clip. I've never wheeled or even rode in a rig running coilovers but they still felt predictable if that makes sense. No crazy unloading or anything goofy. We'll see how it does once I upgrade a couple of parts so I can start thrashing it some without breaking.
To be honest, I didn't even mess with the slider nuts. Just figured they were where they were supposed to be. I'll get them situated right away. Overall though I think I'm pretty happy with the valving. Just cruising the trails it was super comfortable yet stable around the turns even moving at a decent clip. I've never wheeled or even rode in a rig running coilovers but they still felt predictable if that makes sense. No crazy unloading or anything goofy. We'll see how it does once I upgrade a couple of parts so I can start thrashing it some without breaking.
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You can build the suspension to be asymmetrical in order to counteract the torque. but I've never seen anyone actually do it.
The solutions I listed were in order of cost and ease of installation, a sway bar will be the most effective, but the nuts will make a difference too.
The solutions I listed were in order of cost and ease of installation, a sway bar will be the most effective, but the nuts will make a difference too.
TBItoy
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Does anyone run the dual rate nut closer on the right rear, or even stiffer springs on the right rear to counter torque roll?
Does anyone run the dual rate nut closer on the right rear, or even stiffer springs on the right rear to counter torque roll?
Rockwells607
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Prolly gonna hit aoaa next they finally fixed their map and camping so it should be decent there now
Beerj
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I was there once. Couldn't tell you what we hit because like you said, it was kinda difficult to determine where we even were. Either way, let me know. If I'm not working then I'm usually down to wheel.
