Building house, house plans?

TacomaJD · Jul 7, 2016

halcat said:
If your back porch is on the ground, no. If you have to dig a footer and lay blocks to get the right height, yes. Your composite deck still uses regular p.t. Lumber for framing just the decking AND railing is composite. If you use a concrete porch with railing it needs to be composite anyway. You can get it in any color and remember even IT comes in good, better, and what you really need!!

Ahh, good info. I noticed on Trex's website they show 3 different main qualities and of course prices.

CHASMAN9 · Jul 8, 2016

TacomaJD said:
Ahh, good info. I noticed on Trex's website they show 3 different main qualities and of course prices.

Try this website JD, it's a "plug n play" type. :dblthumb:

http://www.homewyse.com/services/index.html

TacomaJD · Jul 10, 2016

Rode by and looked at this piece of land today. It's in a perfect location where I would be completely satisfied living, nothing needs to be done to develope it or clean it up. It's flat and near level with only a slight grade toward the back of the property which would be perfect for making the front of the house near level with the ground and still being able to have crawl space. There's a small utility building on it and 9 bradford pears along the fenceline. No really close neighbors, most houses in the neighbrhood are spaced out, and still only 5 minutes from town, couple minutes closer than I live from town now, but located on the opposite side of town.

I like it well enough to seriously consider buying it now before someone else buys it, then build on it this spring. Lots like this don't pop up every day here. Most available lots around here ready to build on are either in bum ****ed egypt backwoods on shitty roads or close knit sub divisions.

My main question is about closing costs? Is it like a house? Closing costs were around $4k on my current house, surely it wouldn't be that much for just land? They are wanting $19,500 for these two acres, but I would hope they'd take $15k. I'm wondering about how much extra expenses will be like closing costs so I can get a better idea of exactly how much I'd be out for the purchase. It's in realty, so I may call a realtor tomorrow and find out more about it.

halcat · Jul 10, 2016

Closing costs are based on points(often the same as %) so no it won't be nearly as much. When you get a construction loan to build your house look at closing costs and interest rates with different banks. Some banks specialize in Const loans and not mortgages. You don't have to get a Const loan from the same bank that you get your mortgage from. Your lot need to be paid for to use as collateral.

John Galbreath Jr. · Jul 10, 2016

Make sure you have all utilities on the property. Electricty, natural gas, water, telephone/internet, cable, and sewer. Also if not on sewer, make sure it perks.

I am 1 mile from interstate and don't have water, gas, sewer, or cable. No water really sucks, as both my wells are bad.

pholmann · Jul 10, 2016

I prefer well water as long as it's good water. I'm very fortunate. I have excellent well water and I have neighbors with sulfur water. My water is a little hard which causes a little more maintenance on the water heater and the coffee pot has to be cleaned more often, but it has a great taste and is odorless. I'm 1000 ft off the road so utilities cost quite a bit to get this far off the road and we went all underground power. The best advice I can give you is look at a ton of houses for sale and get ideas for likes and dislikes to incorporate into your new plans. Also make sure you place your house, septic, and water to where you can expand later or add a pool. I didn't think that kind of **** out.

grcthird · Jul 10, 2016

JohnG said:
Make sure you have all utilities on the property. Electricty, natural gas, water, telephone/internet, cable, and sewer. Also if not on sewer, make sure it perks.

I am 1 mile from interstate and don't have water, gas, sewer, or cable. No water really sucks, as both my wells are bad.

Yeah but you have such a nice road to the interstate now...and it's so accessible right about now...

My grandparents had well problems on their farm, gigantic pain in the ass.

TacomaJD · Jul 10, 2016

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Power, water, and cable will be there easily. I doubt sewer has made it out that far, but there is no sewer at my current house either and been 11 years with no septic problems. I doubt natural gas line has made it that far either. They ran natural gas through my front yard a few years ago, but I still have yet to have it or any gas at my house. I'm full electric. However, I will probably just get a big propane tank out back if we built there and run a couple wall heaters off of it for emergency and supplemental heat, with all other appliances full electric.

ROKTOY829 · Jul 10, 2016

If the land won't perk, a engineered septic system can cost thousands.

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TBItoy · Jul 10, 2016

TacomaJD said:
Most available lots around here ready to build on are either in bum ****ed egypt backwoods on shitty roads

Sounds like my place.

I'm 8-10 miles from town, which is fine (not bum ****ed Egypt to me), but the roads down to my place pissy me off sometimes.

Granted I have no traffic (only 4 houses past mine to read end), but driving ~1.5 miles at 25-35 mph on a one lane, curvy, tar and chip road gets old if you have to leave a couple times in one day.

I've really considered buying some land that would connect my place to the "main road" just to put a driveway in (and get enough property to get in the green belt)

mtnride · Jul 10, 2016

Build ur own. Feel good, I just spent $3200 for a friggin site plan on a 40 x 100 metal building on an acre of land. Just one plan!

John Galbreath Jr. · Jul 10, 2016

TacomaJD said:
I will probably just get a big propane tank out back if we built there and run a couple wall heaters off of it for emergency and supplemental heat,

Buy, don't rent your tank, as other companies will not fill if rented. Bury the tank, rather than above ground.

My 500 gallon tank.

TacomaJD · Jul 10, 2016

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JohnG said:
Buy, don't rent your tank, as other companies will not fill if rented. Bury the tank, rather than above ground.

My 500 gallon tank.

Awesome, can any tank be buried or does it have to be special designed tanks to be buried?

Obviously I have to look into this land perking thing, as I am clueless to what it is.

John Galbreath Jr. · Jul 10, 2016

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TacomaJD said:
Awesome, can any tank be buried or does it have to be special designed tanks to be buried?

Obviously I have to look into this land perking thing, as I am clueless to what it is.

The tanks you bury are different, but only priced a little more than above ground. A perk test, is the test done to see if the ground drains well enough for a septic tank. No perk, no build.

LandSpeeder · Jul 10, 2016

TacomaJD said:
They are wanting $19,500 for these two acres, but I would hope they'd take $15k.

I'm moving to Rainsville. Jayzus. Cleared land? I'll commute back to bham daily.

onepieceatatime · Jul 10, 2016

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I don't know about wells down south but up here in Ohio it seems the deeper the better. All the ones I've seen go bad were shallow compared to the ones they replaced them with and the deeper ya went the better the water quality seemed and the easier it was on the rest of the system.

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BustedKnucklefilms · Jul 10, 2016

Me and the wife have been looking at this little lake house plan for our forever home. Already got a lot picked out for it.
https://www.dongardner.com/house-plan/5004/the-cedar-court

zukimaster · Jul 10, 2016

LandSpeeder said:
I'm moving to Rainsville. Jayzus. Cleared land? I'll commute back to bham daily.

. I really do know a guy that drove from Rainsville to Roebuck and back everyday for a few years! About a 180 mile round trip

halcat · Jul 10, 2016

JohnG said:
The tanks you bury are different, but only priced a little more than above ground. A perk test, is the test done to see if the ground drains well enough for a septic tank. No perk, no build.

In Tennessee, if you sell five acres or less you have to guarantee the lot to perk in plain, the previous owner has to have already completed a perk test. A perk test consists of drilling four inch holes throughout the property and filling them with water and then timing to see how long the water takes to soak into the ground. If this test has been already done, the Realtor/health dept. will have a copy. If it was 5.01 acres, in Tennessee, you're on your own.

TacomaJD · Jul 10, 2016

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zukimaster said:
. I really do know a guy that drove from Rainsville to Roebuck and back everyday for a few years! About a 180 mile round trip

That is exactly what Jake drives every day to the nuclear plant in Soddy Daisy, 5 days a week! Idk if I could do it! Lol

So now, I have negotiating points. Must be perk tested and surveyed. Lol