I think this would be the shizzz (Steering Quickener)....

[P]

Anyone messed with or ran one of these ??

I know circle track guys run them and so forth but never heard or read of anyone running them with the full hydro. I think fast precise steering would be badass and make technical work alot less demanding personally. Plus with full hydro hell you could saw your frontend like made on climbs with this dood if its as effective as it seems to be.

Steering Quickener... 2.1 ratio

SMALL BODY 2:1 STEERING QUICKENERS
This small body steering quickener weighs less than 1.8 lbs. and takes up a lot less space. 3/4"-36 spline. 2-1/2" x 2-1/2" x 8" overall length.

 

[Welderd]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

OK so I gots a question - you serious?

I've got different orbitals that I've tried out.

I've driven it with 2 different orbital one was slightly less than 2 turns lock-lock other is 3.5ish
Now that's at Idle

doesn't your **** get all hairy at speeds? When I drove the one with <2 turns on the road at top speed I bet it was .75 turns lock to lock because the increased pump speed.

What I'm saying is my steering speed increases as engine rpm increases - does yours not?
I'd say fast steering would be great for the technical stuff but the high speed stuff would send you all over bouncin off trees and rocks if your steering was too fast.

but heck what do I know my **** won't stay together for more than 2 minutes

 

[P]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

Im completely serious... I gots cat like reflexes and want my rig to move dammit when I say move dammit ! laughing1


the thing that pisses me off about hydro is when your lock one way and tryin to go lock the opposite... maybe I just drive that poorly that its always a consideration but Even this weekend when I was drag racing the feild behind my house at speeds it seems like it took to long for it to recover or move the direction I was correcting towards. Im OK with sharp fast steering, prefer it actually.

1 full turn from center to lock would be badass IMO

 

[BamaTJ]

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I don't think that piece would matter much if you have a slow orbital, I would get that fixed first. I think if you get a good orbital that is matched to your system you would be pretty happy. Call PSC and tell them what you are working with and see what they say.

 

[Welderd]

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I'll sell you that fast orbital for cheap but damn it's dangerous!

I had a hard time staying on a 2 lane dirt road - small bump and the wheel turns 10-15 degrees and sends you to one side!

 

[EOR MFG]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

I thought about that option when I had a used orbital off a customers rig, but ended up going with a new one 2 turns lock to lock

I say go for it it is cheaper than a new orbital as long as your pump is up to it

 

[P]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

I don't think that piece would matter much if you have a slow orbital, I would get that fixed first. I think if you get a good orbital that is matched to your system you would be pretty happy. Call PSC and tell them what you are working with and see what they say.

I already know what they say... Ive ordered twice now for the buggy from them , they say "Sure man $$$$$$$$$ " laughing1 I wont be buying a PSC orbital.

I am running a PSC ram and have the PSC Pump and Resy setup as well. I agree the orbital is critical and I have one I may swap out and check since the system is "drained" after pulling the motor. My steering isnt real real slow mind you, I just feel like it takes way to much input on the steering wheel in my opinion, this is basically a gearbox that makes the input of the steering will 2.1 so it would be like me turning quick with arms flappin getting the wheel turned 2.75 times to get to lock....

 

[87yjtoy]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

P, I have an orbital that is 1/2 tune each side ( 1 turn lock to lock ) if you want it.

 

[P]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

P, I have an orbital that is 1/2 tune each side ( 1 turn lock to lock ) if you want it.

Badass... PM me what you need to get out of it and any info you have Thanks !

 

[Welderd]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

really?

please have a passenger sit and video over the wheel while your haulin ass thru some woods.

 

[P]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

really?

please have a passenger sit and video over the wheel while your haulin ass thru some woods.

Really... everyone drives different Id rather work smarter on the wheel not harder. When it comes to drivability everyone feels it differently. If Im wrong, Ill admit it just like your 3 link !

I dont like were mine is at, if i go to far, then id bet this lil steering quickener thing would be my happy medium. I was honestly thinking that the gearbox wouldnt be enough for what i expect / want. Hopefully i can try all options and make an educated decision based off that !

Watch a crawlin video REAL close... I think you'd be surprised at how little input you'll see top named drivers giving thier cars and how much turning radius they are getting with those tiny lil steerin wheels. First image that jumps in my mind is H&C II when Kelly Clifford is driving Moab in the Shaffers rig her and Lance at the time were running and she is on a ledge and the angle is just right so you can see here "saw" the steering wheel left to right on a vert wall ( fast like mud style diggin for traction only on vert rock ) and the wheels look like they get real close to hitting lock to lock...

Like I said, everyone drives different and has different expectations. If I can set MY buggy up to ME Ill feel good no matter what PBB or anyone else says works.... thats how I do me, Im not a trend chaser and Im probably way outdated as far as rig and build technology is. ( trust me I've been second guessed about damn near everything I did to my rig by at least one or two people) But that isnt the point and never has been for me :afro: there is no perfect rig, or setup.. and as soon as there is, someone will come along next week and redefine it so evolve and DRIVE instead.

Tracy Jordan.... enough said. 2 seater in the midst of /Tiny/ moon buggy mayhem/ and he was world champ. laughing1
Love that !! DRIVER.... not rig.

 

[blacksheep10]

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I rode in this situation 1.5 weeks ago. holy ****, ****ing scary. 1.5 turn lock to lock. wow, we were in some trees man. Way fuggin fast. he had ben's old ram on there, way less volume to make it go the distance. I bet it would do you just right. I gotta say, I think that anything under 1 turn to lock is a bad idea, but that's that, what I say. Now, if it takes too much arm input (like the sheep, you'd swear it was manual steering at speed) then putting a 2:1 quickener on it will take twice as much force on the wheel to make the wheel go the same amount of turns and the orbital turn twice as much. you aren't reducing force like with gearing down, you're gearing up, thus making it harder to turn and more ARMSTRONG style.

 

[Welderd]

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don't get all butthurt man - just askin if you really know what your askin for

also go onto pirate and find the hydro calculator
It has a spot on it that will calculate if your pump will keep up if you turn the wheel fast - if you pump can't keep up it will just lag and speed will only go what the pump can do

 

[P]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

don't get all butthurt man - just askin if you really know what your askin for

also go onto pirate and find the hydro calculator
It has a spot on it that will calculate if your pump will keep up if you turn the wheel fast - if you pump can't keep up it will just lag and speed will only go what the pump can do

Im not butt hurt at all , just letting you know were Im coming from is all. Ill try any option I can afford to or have time to is basically what I was getting at, if its not the way i want it thats the only way to find out what it takes to get it there ya know.

I wont be doing any hydro calculators anytime soon. Your the engineer not me ! Its gonna say, spend money buy a matched system your free John Deere Combine Orbital is junk... laughing1

 

[Willymutt]

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Get it switched, I want to see video of the barral roll in the back field! I don't think you'll like the quickener, but never know. I never liked them on race cars because it took more force to turn and I didn't think you had the feal like before.

Let us know how it works out.

 

[muchado]

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I wont be doing any hydro calculators anytime soon. Your the engineer not me ! Its gonna say, spend money buy a matched system your free John Deere Combine Orbital is junk... laughing1

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That's funny


try it out if it's 'ford-able P.. hell if it don't work how you like it you can always take that sumbich off

 

[blacksheep10]

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: I don't think you'll like the quickener, but never know. I never liked them on race cars because it took more force to turn and I didn't think you had the feal like before.

Let us know how it works out.

that's mainly what I was getting at, if it takes some arm at speed, its gonna be about twice as bad with a 2:1 overdrive box in there

 

[P]

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Force isnt the issue, it doesnt take any force to turn mine, it just takes 2.75 turns from center to go full lock left or right.. with 5.5 turns from one lock to the other...

Thats alot of spinning steering wheel laughing1

 

[blacksheep10]

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agreed. that's a lot.
getting it to 1.37ish turns will be nice as ****. I say go for it. you need a smaller cylinder or a bigger orbital. for now, do the quickener

 

[muchado]

Re: I think this would be the shizzz....

agreed. that's a lot.
getting it to 1.37ish turns will be nice as ****. I say go for it. you need a smaller cylinder or a bigger orbital. for now, do the quickener

1.38 would be nice, 1.37 is definetly overkill.