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[joshwho?]

Dear S-Box;
The fact that the block is a 2 bolt or a 4 bolt has nothing to do with how much boost it can handle. What does matter is what type of rotating assembly it has, if any. With higher boost pressures, a forged crank, rods and pistons are pretty much a requirement.

Also, the upper end of the horsepower output for a SBC is about 1.5 HP per CID. This if course is with a Root blower on it. You can put an NOS kit on it as well and get another 100-200 ponies out of it, if you are willing to wring the neck of that beast.

A 454 CID SBC can get up to 675 HP. Anything more than this and you will need to be pricing aluminum blocks. Of course, in order for that badboy to be able to make that 675HP, you will need to drop a BUNDLE of $$$ into it first.

Once a SBC starts to produce more than 475HP, things start getting expensive quickly. At that stage in the game, it becomes cheaper to build a BBC and leave the SBCs to the kids to play around with. A BBC can produce about 1.2 HP per CID, however you also have a lot more of those cubic inches to play around with too. Also, a stock BBC block can safely 1,200 to 1,500 HP all day long.

I've seen the dollar figures for many SBCs that, while they looked and sounded impressive, cost far more than a like BBC for the same HP output. For example, Edelbrock is building blown SBC engines as drop-in replacements that are producing 507 HP on the dyno. The price tag on these engines is around 11,000$ and some change.

On the other hand, for 11K you can build a normally aspirated BBC for less money and with a much greater HP output. Around 675 HP, to be exact. At this point it no longer is advantageous to use a SBC. Again, an Edelbrock BBC 555 CID engine that is normally aspirated with a carburetor has a max HP output of 677 HP and it costs 12,800$.

I am sure there will be people who are going to tell you that they can build a 1000+HP SBC and that there are people who do it all of the time, blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately, unless you are going to be using nitrous, it's pretty much impossible for a 350C CID SBC to produce 2.85 HP per CID. Also, by using nitrous with a high performance engine (read that as *high dollar* engine) you will be taking a huge gamble that everything is going to stay together.
Your friend;
LAMAR

Bawhahaha! :haha: Holy hell! I hope you are continuing this as a joke, because the more you say the less anyone can belive! :haha:

 

[joshwho?]

Dear Joshwho?;
If you read post #155, you might read where I admitted to being incorrect. Therefore, you are arguing with yourself at this stage, and unless you feel strongly about it, you can stop at any time.
Your friend;
LAMAR

You might need to break it down for the crowd, because I see nowhere in post #155 where you said you were wrong, just:

It would seem that the intake volume requirements for a small engine are much lower than the requirement for a large engine, which is why using a turbo, or even twin turbos, on a high displacement engine are impractical.

We then discussed building engines for maximum power output and the end result was the same as I've been preaching all along. Any engine's max output ceiling is not determined by blowers, turbos, cylinder head designs, flow characteristics, ignition systems, etc. The determining factor of a engine's maximum power potential is regulated by the octane rating of the fuel.
Your friend;
LAMAR

NONE of ANYTHING I read on post #155 seemed even REMOTELY like saying that you didn't know or that you were wrong.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO SAY NOTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS POSSIBLE! :eeek:

 

[Lamar]

No doubt, lighter rotating assembly for faster throttle response, lighter weight out over the front for a more even weight bias etc etc etc.

Lamar's last post proves the hasn't the slightest clue and is full of ****. A small block CAN and WILL make far more than 1.5 hp per cubic inch with a blower/turbo(s) etc on it and it can survive just fine. Keep grasping for straws troll. :haha:

Dear group;
When you're bench racing, sure! Anything is possible at that point. But why stop at 1,000 HP? Why not claim that a SBC can produce 2,000, 3,000 or even 4,000 HP? After all, if you're going to be talking out of your azz, why not REALLY talk out of your azz?:haha:
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Dear group;
When you're bench racing, sure! Anything is possible at that point. But why stop at 1,000 HP? Why not claim that a SBC can produce 2,000, 3,000 or even 4,000 HP? After all, if you're going to be talking out of your azz, why not REALLY talk out of your azz?:haha:
Your friend;
LAMAR

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/engines/chevy.html

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SUCK IT :awesomework:

 

[Lamar]

Dear group;
For anyone who's interested, Gale Banks Engineering will cheerfully build up a 376 CID SBC that's capable of achieving 1,000 to 1,100 HP at the flywheel. The price? A paltry sum of 40,000$.
http://www.bankspower.com/products/show/267/85

And I thought that a 1,000 HP BBC for 15,000$ was outrageous??? I knew that building an ultra-high output SBC cost some ultra-high bucks, but I didn't imagine that it would be THAT high!
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Dear group;
For anyone who's interested, Gale Banks Engineering will cheerfully build up a 376 CID SBC that's capable of achieving 1,000 to 1,100 HP at the flywheel. The price? A paltry sum of 40,000$.
http://www.bankspower.com/products/show/267/85

And I thought that a 1,000 HP BBC for 15,000$ was outrageous??? I knew that building an ultra-high output SBC cost some ultra-high bucks, but I didn't imagine that it would be THAT high!
Your friend;
LAMAR

Wait I thought it was completely impossible to ever get that much horsepower out of a small block chevy? Thought it wasn't feasible to get enough pump gas and air into a cylinder to make that much power? Back peddle back peddle back peddle.... Piss off troll you are talking out of school. :hi:

 

[Lamar]

Dear group;
Oh yeah, one thing that I forgot to mention in my last post. The 1,000 to 1,100 HP being produced by a SBC? That's with 100 octane racing fuel. With 92 octane premium, expect the HP output to be around 700 HP. Sorry guys, but that's life!
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Dear group;
Oh yeah, one thing that I forgot to mention in my last post. The 1,000 to 1,100 HP being produced by a SBC? That's with 100 octane racing fuel. With 92 octane premium, expect the HP output to be around 700 HP. Sorry guys, but that's life!
Your friend;
LAMAR

Huh, guess you missed this post didn't ya? Pump gas 1100 HP.

SUCK IT :awesomework:

 

[Lamar]

Wait I thought it was completely impossible to ever get that much horsepower out of a small block chevy? Thought it wasn't feasible to get enough pump gas and air into a cylinder to make that much power? Back peddle back peddle back peddle.... Piss off troll you are talking out of school. :hi:

Dear White Trash;
Get the fawk outta here, you little cockbiter. You're just stinking up the place with your redneck bullchit. Go back to your double wide and beat your wife and leave the rest of us alone. Like your nick states, you are nothing but white trash. You are worthless, just like your ancestors.
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

Dear White Trash;
Get the fawk outta here, you little cockbiter. You're just stinking up the place with your redneck bullchit. Go back to your double wide and beat your wife and leave the rest of us alone. Like your nick states, you are nothing but white trash. You are worthless, just like your ancestors.
Your friend;
LAMAR

No. :hi:

 

[joshwho?]

Dear group;
For anyone who's interested, Gale Banks Engineering will cheerfully build up a 376 CID SBC that's capable of achieving 1,000 to 1,100 HP at the flywheel. The price? A paltry sum of 40,000$.
http://www.bankspower.com/products/show/267/85

And I thought that a 1,000 HP BBC for 15,000$ was outrageous??? I knew that building an ultra-high output SBC cost some ultra-high bucks, but I didn't imagine that it would be THAT high!
Your friend;
LAMAR

:haha: Are you trying to say that an engine that comes with an INSTRUCTION MANUAL has everything squeezed out of it? :haha: That kit uses LOG manifolds and ON CENTER turbine housings! :haha: I didn't even know they still made on center turbine housings!

Plus it's a TWIN turbo setup which is less efficent than one large single... but I'm sure none of that would effect power output now would it! :fawkdancesmiley:

 

[joshwho?]

Dear White Trash;
Get the fawk outta here, you little cockbiter. You're just stinking up the place with your redneck bullchit. Go back to your double wide and beat your wife and leave the rest of us alone. Like your nick states, you are nothing but white trash. You are worthless, just like your ancestors.
Your friend;
LAMAR

Wow! You ARE full retard from the looks of it!
:trollarse:
It's funny how you won't answer any of the questions I've had for you, but you'll add to the thread in this manner!

...you amaze me with your stupidity.

 

[Glenn]

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A 454 CID SBC can get up to 675 HP. Anything more than this and you will need to be pricing aluminum blocks. Of course, in order for that badboy to be able to make that 675HP, you will need to drop a BUNDLE of $$$ into it first.

Your friend;
LAMAR

No such thing as a 454 SBC that I know of.

 

[joshwho?]

No such thing as a 454 SBC that I know of.

It's not a factory displacement by any means, but they aren't SUPER uncommon. I think World makes them in thier MOTOWN series and I know they have made the 420 for atleast 10 years, but I'm not 100% about the 454.

NOT an engine I would build, but they have thier purpose. I don't like how far towards the crown of the piston the wrist pin would end up and the rod to stroke ratio can't be all that great.

 

[WHITE TRASH1]

No such thing as a 454 SBC that I know of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIE2nu4obAI

 

[leadfoot067]

ya motown makes it....i always wanted one...

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garag...eBase&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=GoogleBase

 

[joshwho?]

Dear Joshwho?;
If you read post #155, you might read where I admitted to being incorrect. Therefore, you are arguing with yourself at this stage, and unless you feel strongly about it, you can stop at any time.
Your friend;
LAMAR

You might need to break it down for the crowd, because I see nowhere in post #155 where you said you were wrong, just:

It would seem that the intake volume requirements for a small engine are much lower than the requirement for a large engine, which is why using a turbo, or even twin turbos, on a high displacement engine are impractical.

We then discussed building engines for maximum power output and the end result was the same as I've been preaching all along. Any engine's max output ceiling is not determined by blowers, turbos, cylinder head designs, flow characteristics, ignition systems, etc. The determining factor of a engine's maximum power potential is regulated by the octane rating of the fuel.
Your friend;
LAMAR

NONE of ANYTHING I read on post #155 seemed even REMOTELY like saying that you didn't know or that you were wrong.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO SAY NOTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS POSSIBLE! :eeek:

Hellooo? LaMar?

 

[CHOP SHOP]

MODS please combine these two worthless threads and lock them. http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50924&highlight=cummins+powerstroke

Its like josh and lamar are the binder and jeffy of the gasser world.

 

[Binder]

MODS please combine these two worthless threads and lock them. http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50924&highlight=cummins+powerstroke

Its like josh and lamar are the binder and jeffy of the gasser world.

:haha: Josh and Lamar can not compete!:flipoff:

 

[joshwho?]

:haha: Josh and Lamar can not compete!:flipoff:

That is clear with his lack of ANY response!