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Maxxis 42" Comp Trepador coming

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kushKrawlin said:
Negative. I def don't think that's the case at all. I'm just a fan of a larger tire than 40". But read the same dam thing we all do, "43's being so big breaks ****" and "red sidewalls rip". I read that enuf to make the decision that my wallet couldn't handle either of those issues. And dam glad I did ! I really think most anyone would be happy with any of the stickies.
Why is there a need for greater 40"? Our rocks are nothing compared to west coast, and you don't hear them run huge tires. Maybe pick a better line.
 
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redneckengineered said:
Dude...seriously?
Yes, seriously. 1.5" making that much a difference over the ability to drive? Haven't been somewhere and said, damn that 1.5" more of tire would have made that difference. More thought went into line choice, wheel base sucks, and power.
bjeep said:
Now now.. molaugh

He is a racer and is building a ultra 4 car. We have to be nice. :****:
Don't have to be nice with me. I'm not about political correctness.
 
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Mortalis5509 said:
Why is there a need for greater 40"? Our rocks are nothing compared to west coast, and you don't hear them run huge tires. Maybe pick a better line.
I remember back in 2003 when I bought my jeep most Jeeps were on 33's and a few had 35's. Now most have 35's and a few of us have 37's. Just recently two guys put 40" MTR's on their JK's. I'm sure in a few more years 37's will be the norm and a few more will have 39'-40's on their Jeeps. The same thing has happened with the buggy crowd, 39's were the norm, but many have gone to 43's now. Who knows when it will stop.

I totally agree with your statement about picking a better line. It seems like the skill of rock crawling has been replaced with huge tires and lots of horsepower. Last May at AOP a few of the guys in our group did almost all the black trails and two of the guys were on 35's. Of course it took us longer to run the trails and we even had to pull the winch a time or two. The bouncers have definitely pushed this sport farther, but it's funny to watch the videos and see some of the guys hold the pedal to the floor and slam into trees, rocks, etc. and then you see TC or John G picking a line, using throttle control and finessing their way up the same trail.
 
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Mortalis5509 said:
Don't have to be nice with me. I'm not about political correctness.

Thank God!! Me either lol. Really I'm a fan of over 40" too. Not sure how much it help or doesn't. It's just what I've ran for the last decade. One thing for sure though, the bigger the tire, the smaller the rock or ledge or random obstacle. That's the truth. Not saying a smaller tire doesn't get the job done, but maybe it won't at times. My buddy I've wheeled with forever runs 38's and I run 42's. He can go everywhere I can but I'm sure the wheelbase comes into play as well.
 
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Ricky 79cj-7 said:
I remember back in 2003 when I bought my jeep most guys were on 33's and a few had 35's. Now most have 35's and a few of us have 37's. Just recently two guys put 40" MTR's on their JK's.

I totally agree with your statement about picking a better line. It seems like the skill of rock crawling has been replaced with huge tires and lots of horsepower. Last May at AOP a few of the guys in our group did almost all the black trails and two of the guys were on 35's. The bouncers have definitely pushed this sport farther, but it's funny to watch the videos and see some of the guys hold the pedal to the floor and slam into trees, rocks, etc. and then you see TC or John G picking a line, using throttle control and finessing their way up the same trail.

Your comparing apples and oranges. Crawling vs bouncing.
 
Haha the ****ing rocks are so big out west in most cases that your not Smashing diffs and gettin hung up often I would imagine. (Just from wat I have watched). Here we have nothing but small boulders, just big enough to straddle. With 40 pounds in a 40" tire my belly is Prob 22ish. Let the air out, down to 18-19. im thinkin that's bout right. Who the hell wouldn't want a bigger tire?? The fastest we go on the trails around here is what 15 miles an hour? For the most part I'll stick with "bigger is better" ... Up to a certain point. I dont pick Lines.. Lines pick me :flipoff1:
 
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pholmann said:
Your comparing apples and oranges. Crawling vs bouncing.
That is true, but you don't see many bouncers with anything less than 42's. I was saying that even with 40+ tires many of the bouncers struggle on trails/obstacles that could be crawled with a much smaller tire and a little bit of driving skill. I think its mainly a preference in driving style. Some of us prefer the technical part of crawling while others prefer the adrenaline of bouncing. I'm not debating which is better, but simply agreeing that bigger tires alone are not going to make a rig more capable. A 3 inch taller tire only gives you 1 to 1 1/2 inches more of ground clearance when aired down.
 
kushKrawlin said:
And who gives a **** about what they say out west anyway?

^^^^^THIS

Ricky 79cj-7 said:
That is true, but you don't see many bouncers with anything less than 42's. I was saying that even with 40+ tires many of the bouncers struggle on trails/obstacles that could be crawled with a much smaller tire and a little bit of driving skill. I think its mainly a preference in driving style. Some of us prefer the technical part of crawling while others prefer the adrenaline of bouncing. I'm not debating which is better, but simply agreeing that bigger tires alone are not going to make a rig more capable. A 3 inch taller tire only gives you 1 to 1 1/2 inches more of ground clearance when aired down.

Bigger tires have been popular around here since waaaay before rock bouncing came about. I do agree that there are many variables that play in it. Rig setup, driver, line picked, etc. but I would take a bigger tire over a smaller tire any day. The parks that have been around a long time and haven't popped up due to the recent increase in popularity of the sport such as windrock, have been eaten out so badly due to time and traffic that small tired absolutely suck there.
 
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Mortalis5509 said:
Why is there a need for greater 40"? Our rocks are nothing compared to west coast, and you don't hear them run huge tires. Maybe pick a better line.

I'll say this.. I have crawled almost every trail out west in Johnson Valley on 40" tires with no problems, sledgehammer, resolution, spooners, jackhammer, etc etc. The only exception was back door, I had to drive more like a rock bouncer to get up it. My point is you can pick a line out there and your tires will stick to that line.

Here in the southeast it's totally different. A line that worked yesterday may not work today and there's no guarantee that you'll be able to stay on the line you attempt.

As for west coast guys not running bigger tires out there that's totally false. The racers run 40's yes but what other options do they have. The only one I'm aware of is the 42" MTR. But there are tons of guys that wheel 42's 44's 47's ect.. a lot of low geared toyota's, jeeps and custom / chopped / backyard fab everything
 
Don't forget about the "street" lookin tires I see a lot of them running. Bring those out to the east. I'm sure they'll do very good! Especially when it's raining at Morris mountain.. Sheesh. Hello I saw a guy in a jeep wrangler with stock wheels and tires, go up destabilizer, think that's wat it's called, and slowly but surely picking the right lines he made it up without Makin a sound. And I've seen 42 inch tires and people bottoming out and making all kinds of loud racket. Hell if you pick the exact perfect line you could probably make it on a unicycle, but that's not what they're doing out west. Haha. Hell who cares their all good tires. Opinions just happen to be like assholes I guess
 
I would be interested to swap mine and your on the same obstacle at windrock when u come up and see the difference on two different rigs on the same day/time/and obstacle. I bet your **** isn't ground for 15" wheels though.
 
How much are you willing to bet? Haha. Mine are ground down enough to fit a 15 inch wheels with 3 1/2 inch backspacing. Haha. Which I have a set of .. I'll more than likely be bringing a set of spares anytime I go riding. I generally try to bring as many spare parts as I can.. I know it's ridiculous but, this sport or hobby, consumes most of my time and is something I am very serious/ passionate about. If I make a trip that far and say mess up a tire or break apart, and know that I have it at home, I would absolutely be sick to my stomach. I like to be prepared. And like everything else that I've ever done and ever do, I go extremely overboard on everything.
And about the 1.5 " more ground clearance comment , there's people taking reindeer is out and turning them down for a half inch or so.. So to me every single inch matters, not only that it would be more than one and a half inches I can assure you from a 40" to a 44 ..
But anyway **** on all that when is this tire supposed to come out?
 
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kushKrawlin said:
How much are you willing to bet? Haha. Mine are ground down enough to fit a 15 inch wheels with 3 1/2 inch backspacing. Haha. Which I have a set of .. I'll more than likely be bringing a set of spares anytime I go riding. I generally try to bring as many spare parts as I can.. I know it's ridiculous but, this sport or hobby, consumes most of my time and is something I am very serious/ passionate about. If I make a trip that far and say mess up a tire or break apart, and know that I have it at home, I would absolutely be sick to my stomach. I like to be prepared. And like everything else that I've ever done and ever do, I go extremely overboard on everything.
And about the 1.5 " more ground clearance comment , there's people taking reindeer is out and turning them down for a half inch or so.. So to me every single inch matters, not only that it would be more than one and a half inches I can assure you from a 40" to a 44 ..
But anyway **** on all that when is this tire supposed to come out?


Turning down reindeer ? Bet that makes a mess on the lathe!

molaugh :****:
 

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