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Help Support Hardline Crawlers :
Now that the Rain Season has started
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Trailtoy1993
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I'll take first watch in the meadow, with a shotgun and a tread lightly sign!
Seriously though, wouldn't it need to be every weekend until it dries out?
Seriously though, wouldn't it need to be every weekend until it dries out?
GRNTACO
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Trailtoy1993 said:I'll take first watch in the meadow, with a shotgun and a tread lightly sign!
Seriously though, wouldn't it need to be every weekend until it dries out?
I am with ya buddy. I will bring the AR for the longer shots.
GRNTACO
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Ceg said:This is one of the trails to the road.
It was such a mess we were not for sure what was the main trail and what were the by passes. All the ways through had ruts that 33s couldn't make it. (Edit: As in the 33s were not tall enough to get the rigs through the deep mud holes.)
Yup that is what I seen. I could not believe how it changed from last Fall before the snow. I thought I made a wrong turn somewhere........
Trailtoy1993
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Comet said:
This is a bullshit cop out! This is the attitude that lets this **** go on! "Oh I don't want to say anything myself, but somebody should...." I am sure there were a hundred rigs at the rocks, but not one person could go out and confront the people doing the damage and say "I would like to continue wheeling here and I would hope that you would too, so please stop destroying the area so it does not get shut down, and ask your friends to do the same thing" All it takes is one person with some sack to make a difference, not a club or anything else, just speak up when you see someone doing wrong and you make a difference!
Trailtoy1993
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Jaydog said:
:flipoff: Yes I do agree.
It just really fires me up and pisses me off that we have to do that rather than individuals stepping up and speaking up at the moment that bad things are happening. Its like "Hey, that girl over there is getting robbed and raped, hope the police get here soon to do something!" Same difference. I believe the example I used is a crime punishable by law called "depraved indiffrence", whereas if you are witness to a crime and they can prove that you could have done something to stop it, you are charged with a crime as well. I think we should hold ourselves to the same standard, if we witness destruction of the environment an do nothing to stop it, we we are no better than them and should be fined/charged/drawn and quartered as well.
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GRNTACO
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:rockon:Trailtoy1993 said:
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no excuses
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TB-F said:mg:
shiat a built big block with 40"-44"s in 2wheel drive, that would only take about 15-30 min. :corn:
Comet
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Dude, do you even know me? I don't need to defend my contributions to saving and protecting and growing wheeling opportunities to very many people on this board, but apparently you're new. I haven't wheeled in over 3 years, yet each year I give of hundreds of hours and contribute several hundred dollars to causes supporting wheeling opportunities in this state and elsewhere. I arrange face to face meetings with political and land managment leaders to discuss import issues. I help coordinate trail clean ups, and partrols just like I'm recommending. I could go on and on, but my question to you is what have you done lately to help out? Just because I have a good idea doesn't mean you **** all over the message to make a point. I happen to agree with your intent, but you're barking up the wrong tree. So, why don't YOU and your buddies that actually wheel do it...or anyone? Who's going to step up? I want to hear from people that normally sit on the sidelines and wait for others to act.Trailtoy1993 said:
Likewise, you don't know us. Brad, Ben, Chad, Brent, Chris, Kyle, Cody, myself and everyone else who has come here from WATTORA have very strong trail ethics. There hasn't been a SINGLE run that we haven't trucked out garbage that wasn't ours. We spend countless hours at cleanups and meetings, driving halfway across the state to be the ONLY 4x4 people at the early Naches environmental plan meetings (where were you?), taking evidence and confronting people who are misbehaving, doing everything we can to promote and preserve the sport.Comet said:
tomcat
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well..call me in ....
thats all i do is mudd...well mud drag..
thats all i do is mudd...well mud drag..Trailtoy1993
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Comet said:
Yes, I know of you Comet, obviously not on a first name basis, but I do know of your good works. And I do/did not mean my rant as a personal attack in any way shape or form. I just get really fired up over the lackidasical attitude of people on the trails not willing to do something at the time, yet complaining about areas being shut down. And while I do think the idea has merit I really wanted to send a message to everyone else that it is not ok to rely on others in place of taking action themselves. Lack of action is the first step in loss of personal rights. Again, I do not mean to attack you personally, Comet, I just was using your post as a soapbox to hopefully get somebody to tell somebody on the trail that their harmful actions are not ok.
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tomcat said:well..call me in ....
But thats spacific(sp) use--your not out dragging in the medows :;
KarlVP
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You know what? Next year at memorial day, we should go out and hand out flyers. I'll do it. And I'm sure I can get some tamers to participate.
We all enjoy this. Let's not bitch at eachother, let's help and do a good job doing it.
We all enjoy this. Let's not bitch at eachother, let's help and do a good job doing it.
