Public Meeting

[Binder]

You are assuming the consultant won't take user input. My guess is they will.

I didn't assume anything, I asked a question.
You shouldn't guess if your trying to get accurate info out to the people.

 

[Pook]

I have a hard time trusting any government official...

I sure hope this all works out for you guys.

 

[Travis1]

I didn't assume anything, I asked a question.
You shouldn't guess if your trying to get accurate info out to the people.

Yup. Until that consultant gets hired and starts working, you really don't know what the game plan will be.

 

[nowires]

So let me explain this a little more. Lets say on this multi use thought
So if we could get 20 miles of multi use trail in where we are all using the same trail and then 15 miles of 4x4 trails along with 20 miles of bike trails would this work for the area
So that would give 35 miles of trails for the 4x4s
40 miles for the bikes and quads
And can someone please answer a question for me. How many miles of trail are we loosing with the new concept excluding Izzy and BYS

 

[nowires]

So did the DNR change their position since Thursday night? Where did you get your information? Last I heard the DNR was going to hire a consultant for this and I find it hard to believe this has changed.

Let's reverse this. What are you doing to help with this?
Please explain what you are doing

 

[crash2]

So let me explain this a little more. Lets say on this multi use thought
So if we could get 20 miles of multi use trail in where we are all using the same trail and then 15 miles of 4x4 trails along with 20 miles of bike trails would this work for the area
So that would give 35 miles of trails for the 4x4s
40 miles for the bikes and quads
And can someone please answer a question for me. How many miles of trail are we loosing with the new concept excluding Izzy and BYS

I can't see this working really. From what I am gathering the single track guys won't like this and in reality they need more miles than we do. I can see there point of view from listening to them because who would want to ride a trail thats our width? It would be like us running trails that are 2 lanes.

 

[crash2]

Yup. Until that consultant gets hired and starts working, you really don't know what the game plan will be.

We still have a ton of work prior to a consultant even coming on board.

 

[japerry]

all good stuff. But I still want to know how we can fight the immunity law. I just rode Walker today, and if Reiter is going to be reviewed by the same folks as Walker (very likely), trails will have to pass the 32" Open/Open lowest common denominator.

We need to be focusing our efforts there. DNR would do whatever we wanted if the laws allowed them to. There is little point in blaming DNR for where we are at.

Its easy to blame them, but recent evidence has shown DNR taking a new approach to ORV recreation. I think we should give them a chance.

 

[The_Shocker]

all good stuff. But I still want to know how we can fight the immunity law. I just rode Walker today, and if Reiter is going to be reviewed by the same folks as Walker (very likely), it will have to pass the 32" Open/Open requirement.

We need to be focusing our efforts there. DNR would do whatever we wanted if the laws allowed them to. There is little point in blaming DNR for where we are at.

Its easy to blame them, but recent evidence has shown DNR taking a new approach to ORV recreation. I think we should give them a chance.

What is the 32" open requirement? And is it even possible to get that law changed before next year?

 

[zukkev]

all good stuff. But I still want to know how we can fight the immunity law. I just rode Walker today, and if Reiter is going to be reviewed by the same folks as Walker (very likely), it will have to pass the 32" Open/Open requirement.

We need to be focusing our efforts there. DNR would do whatever we wanted if the laws allowed them to. There is little point in blaming DNR for where we are at.

Its easy to blame them, but recent evidence has shown DNR taking a new approach to ORV recreation. I think we should give them a chance.

There is no actual ' 32" open/open requirement" Neil; It was a term locally used to guage the actual difficulty of some work we've been doing up there...again, there is no written 32" open/open thingamablob... In fact, there is some trail where there are 2 lines, one easier (for the 32" open/open thing), and a harder line, where my understanding is it is harder, how much? I don't know 1st hand...I was planning on heading up there today (sun), but things got in the way...:booo:
Anyhow, I do agree that the recreational immunity law needs to be revisited/amended....

 

[nowires]

So did the DNR change their position since Thursday night? Where did you get your information? Last I heard the DNR was going to hire a consultant for this and I find it hard to believe this has changed.

They are still going to hire a consaltant but if we all work together then I think it would go a long ways with DNR showing that the clubs want it

 

[nowires]

I can't see this working really. From what I am gathering the single track guys won't like this and in reality they need more miles than we do. I can see there point of view from listening to them because who would want to ride a trail thats our width? It would be like us running trails that are 2 lanes.

The 20 miles of trail multi use trail is already in place. Everyone already is using them and getting along.
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[Cascade_Crawler]

The 20 miles of trail multi use trail is already in place. Everyone already is using them and getting along.
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are you the consultant?

 

[nowires]

are you the consultant?

Trying to bid on it
I have been working on a trail plan for the last 6 months. talking with DNR about what they want to see in the trail system as far as trail design and trail criterias. Yes I have came up with a trail design that meets all there current criterias. I will not post my trail design do to the bidding prosess

But my whole objective is to get user input when trails are being made as to final path

I will give out as much info as I can without compramising my bid pac

I will also try to direct the ORV users in a way that will help the prosess move along smoother as I hear things

 

[zukkev]

Trying to bid on it
I have been working on a trail plan for the last 6 months. talking with DNR about what they want to see in the trail system as far as trail design and trail criterias. Yes I have came up with a trail design that meets all there current criterias. I will not post my trail design do to the bidding prosess

But my whole objective is to get user input when trails are being made as to final path

I will give out as much info as I can without compramising my bid pac

I will also try to direct the ORV users in a way that will help the prosess move along smoother as I hear things

Very !!! Hope you get it Mr.!!!

 

[Binder]

Let's reverse this. What are you doing to help with this?
Please explain what you are doing

Nothing..I've told you this before so why do you keep asking?

 

[Binder]

Trying to bid on it
I have been working on a trail plan for the last 6 months. talking with DNR about what they want to see in the trail system as far as trail design and trail criterias............
I will give out as much info as I can without compramising my bid pac.............

Who in the DNR have you been working with for the last 6 months?

 

[Duck Dodgers]

Nothing..I've told you this before so why do you keep asking?

Who in the DNR have you been working with for the last 6 months?

Why do you need to know this if you plan on doing "Nothing"?

 

[Duck Dodgers]

I was planning on heading up there today (sun), but things got in the way...:booo:

Skagit and MT Baker MC's have their function going on up there today so it would be pretty crowed. That's why I am sitting here now.

 

[Binder]

Why do you need to know this if you plan on doing "Nothing"?

Where did I say I plan to do nothing?